Time to stop: I wonder when it's time to stop. For several years I guided and wrote for three magazines on hunting and fishing and shooting. Now I'm down to one and I no longer guide.

Seegundo Loc: Lake s minole Georgia

I wonder when it's time to stop. For several years I guided and wrote for three magazines on hunting and fishing and shooting. Now I'm down to one and I no longer guide. I'm considering stopping writing for the last magazine. I feel the equipment,phone apps, d pth sounded and trolling motors have eclipsed the need for old timers like me. You can plug in the lake time of day wind ect. And a computer will tell you what and where to fish. Scope can make anyone a marksman at five hundred yards.

Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA

Children, what's that sound? Everybody look, what's going down?

Never never surrender.
Just my opinion.
For what it's worth.

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Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven

Seegundo wrote:

I wonder when it's time to stop. For several years I guided and wrote for three magazines on hunting and fishing and shooting. Now I'm down to one and I no longer guide. I'm considering stopping writing for the last magazine. I feel the equipment,phone apps, d pth sounded and trolling motors have eclipsed the need for old timers like me. You can plug in the lake time of day wind ect. And a computer will tell you what and where to fish. Scope can make anyone a marksman at five hundred yards.

Comes a time in everybody’s life that they finally determine that very few things are as they used to be. I had to hang up the spurs and move on.

DocB Loc: Bama

Seegundo wrote:

I wonder when it's time to stop. For several years I guided and wrote for three magazines on hunting and fishing and shooting. Now I'm down to one and I no longer guide. I'm considering stopping writing for the last magazine. I feel the equipment,phone apps, d pth sounded and trolling motors have eclipsed the need for old timers like me. You can plug in the lake time of day wind ect. And a computer will tell you what and where to fish. Scope can make anyone a marksman at five hundred yards.

Seegundo,
If you are looking for somewhere your obvious expertise would be greatly appreciated, and also gratifying to yourself, look into volunteering with a local highschool fishing team.... I coached and captained for my grandson's team a few years ago, and really had a great time... Most of the kids really were eager to learn, and fished their hearts out... I also put on a workshop on jig and spinner bait building, making sure every kid that showed up left with a handful of baits they built themselves... It really meant a lot to them when they caught fish on lures they built themselves.... While you are correct about the technology changing how people approach fishing, what it doesn't do is teach ethics and an appreciation for the outdoors and our resources, that's what "old-timers" like you and me can teach that technology can't help them with.... Just another "old-timer",
Doc

Seegundo Loc: Lake s minole Georgia

I turned 68 July 8 and it seems that ethics is a little passe ' to this generation. Character is something you only proclaim while you are in the spot light. The things that I saw and heard this last duck season sickens me. People shooting in the night by spot light. I called the game wardens but they were an hour from the Lake.makes pretty picture of a hunt that didn't occur. I guess I'm just burned out, perturbed,and saddened buy what I seen

DocB Loc: Bama

I get it, we all have seen examples of what you're talking about, but without someone teaching the kids coming up, it's just going to get worse.... While I was coaching we interacted with kids from all over the southeast and some from other areas of the country, overall these kids were great with many fathers and grandfather's teaching not only thier kids but also the kids from split families with no one around to teach these lessons... I still hear from some of the kids I helped coach, some are fishing with local colleges, and a couple have joined the military, but I do like to think that I made a positive impression on all of them... It may not be your cup of tea, but don't ever think that is "old-timers", or as I usually say "old farts", don't have anything to offer....
Doc

charlykilo Loc: Garden Valley Ca

Bet you have a lot to say about your guiding?

OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin

Seegundo,
Doc is onto something! You have knowledge and experience to share which someone will benefit from and appreciate. Even the Pros struggle to catch fish despite having all that technology to show them exactly where the fish are. Pay it forward and pass it on the next generations. Even if you only create a handful of ethical hunters and fishermen, it will be worth your effort. Just my 2 cents!

DocB Loc: Bama

Seegundo,
One more post and I'll get off my soapbox.... I'm not going to say that this program is perfect, we fished tournaments with over 250 boats, you're going to have less than honorable people in any crowd of that size, but overall it was about the kids.... Not only that, I'm not saying that you should go out and guide for these kids unless that's what you want, I guarantee you that any of these clubs would jump at the chance to have you speak at a meeting.... I just hate to hear of anyone getting such a bad taste in their mouth about something you obviously loved, or you wouldn't have done for so long.....
Doc

MoJoe Loc: Springfield, MO

Back when I started living in the Phoenix area in the 1970s, I had an old Arrowglas stick steering bass boat, Lowrance portable flasher, with what we now call classic tackle and caught my share of bass. I fished one tournament when tournaments first came to Arizona, didn't like it because it was too much like working, so I never fished another tournament again.
After many years of working too hard, raising a family, and finally taking care of my late wife who passed 5 years ago from complications of Parkinson's with dementia thrown in, I retired 2 years ago to Missouri.
While I'm now the proud owner of a V bottom Tracker, I'm enjoying fishing the same way I did back in the 1970s. The depth finder is much nicer, but I don't suspect I will be using side or down imaging. All of the classic stuff just suits me fine.

Seegundo Loc: Lake s minole Georgia

Doc thank you for the posts. As for the highschool in did all I could there u donated over two thousand books, many on hunting, fishing, camping cooking ,over two hundred and fifty Louis Lamour, as well as my DVD and VHS collection in hunting and fishing. I got very few thank you s from the he students. Maybe three. I think I've done all I can there

bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington

I quit when I physically could not guide any more. To leave anyone with a lifetime memory and smile from fishing in an ethical manner, is a true contribution to the sport. That applies more when the fisherman or woman is a child. When I could, I also tried to get young kids to become "junior super hero's". When I mentioned "junior super hero's" almost all kids wanted to know how to become one. I replied with a very simple answer. "1. Never lie, 2. Never hit a woman, and 3. Always try to help anyone that wants your help." Bottom line, as a guide people look up to you. Use that advantage to influence your clients regrading respect of nature and others. You can work to make things better, or you can become part of the problem and add to the anger and apathy that is sweeping the country. That decision is yours and only yours. All that being said, I can appriiate you need to vent.

DocB Loc: Bama

Seegundo wrote:

Doc thank you for the posts. As for the highschool in did all I could there u donated over two thousand books, many on hunting, fishing, camping cooking ,over two hundred and fifty Louis Lamour, as well as my DVD and VHS collection in hunting and fishing. I got very few thank you s from the he students. Maybe three. I think I've done all I can there

Seegundo,
It's unfortunate that you're experience with the high schoolers was not positive, believe me I understand the frustration you must have felt over the lack of appreciation for your thoughtful donations.... I guess that I was fortunate, my work with the bass club was 98% positive... All I can offer I am sure you already know, and that's just to get past this frustration and go out and enjoy fishing and hunting for yourself... Believe me, stupid inconsiderate a##holes frustrate me to no end as well, but I decided long ago they are not going to keep me from enjoying the outdoors... Good luck...
Doc

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Seegundo wrote:

I wonder when it's time to stop. For several years I guided and wrote for three magazines on hunting and fishing and shooting. Now I'm down to one and I no longer guide. I'm considering stopping writing for the last magazine. I feel the equipment,phone apps, d pth sounded and trolling motors have eclipsed the need for old timers like me. You can plug in the lake time of day wind ect. And a computer will tell you what and where to fish. Scope can make anyone a marksman at five hundred yards.

All things hi tech are approaching the crash mode rapidly. The world is going to need your type of realty again before long. I say keep it up. Many of us rely on old technology and catch more fish WITHOUT all the modern gadgets. Being a good marksman is not even marksmanship any more. It’s point and shoot and computerized equipment does all the work for you. I’m old fashioned in both areas and do just as good if not better than the people with all the modern toys.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

bapabear wrote:

I quit when I physically could not guide any more.... (show quote)

I guided big game hunters in Wyoming for many years and was a lameness specialist for horses for many years as well. When I became, physically, unable to do either (actually BEFORE I became physically unable) I became a consultant for both areas. I do much better, financially, now than I did sweating. Plus I can still get out and enjoy the great outdoors pretty good too. I live by “a body in motion stays in motion” 👍