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Apr 14, 2022 14:39:52   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
Now that these things are required can anyone offer ideas for install?

The one I have is a normally open switch. In other words when the lanyard and fork is pulled out the switch makes but in operation that circuit is open. There are only two wires.

For the life of me I can’t think how to mount without using a relay to ground out some circuit.

1973 StarCraft and 73 Merc tower of power 115hp.

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Apr 14, 2022 15:24:37   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Required? Just curious. In your state or where are they a new requirement on older boats? They were on Jetskis forever. If the Captain of the boat doesn’t keep the lanyard tied to themselves they don’t do anything. Usually they short or disconnect the ignition. If it is a normally open ( without the lanyard /fork in place ) you should install it in series with the ignition lead. So that would be the wire that is energized when the key is in the run position. So in other words the ignition wire has a secondary switch in series after it’s installed. Normally open but when the fork/lanyard is in place the switch is closed.

If it was put in series with the positive wire to the key then it would enable the starter as well as ignition for the motor therefore someone couldn’t turn starter ( in turn spinning propeller) therefore prevents injuries from prop turning when someone is near it in the water. The current requirements for the starter is more than just ignition.

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Apr 14, 2022 16:39:51   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
Coast Guard mandatory for all powered watercraft under 20’ nationwide.

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Apr 14, 2022 16:41:44   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
It is an open circuit with fork in place. That is what is making me crazy!

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Apr 14, 2022 17:12:21   #
Fishnlady Loc: Las Vegas Nv moving to Colorado
 
Hi Jeremy!
That's a beautiful fish you're showing.
Best regards
Fisnlady

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Apr 14, 2022 17:23:20   #
Blackdog Loc: Round Rock, TX
 
Ugly fish wrote:
It is an open circuit with fork in place. That is what is making me crazy!


What happens when you pull the fork?

Still open?


BD

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Apr 14, 2022 18:29:37   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
[quote=Blackdog]What happens when you pull the fork?

Still open?
Fork out continuity, fork in no continuity

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Apr 14, 2022 19:29:07   #
Blackdog Loc: Round Rock, TX
 
[quote=Ugly fish]
Blackdog wrote:
What happens when you pull the fork?

Still open?
Fork out continuity, fork in no continuity


Just the opposite.

Sounds like it's wired into the wrong line.
Switch the wires on the deadman.
Possibly a bad switch. Or your using the wrong wires.

Bd

Can you check volages?

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Apr 14, 2022 19:34:14   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
Blackdog wrote:
Just the opposite.

Sounds like it's wired into the wrong line.
Switch the wires on the deadman.
Possibly a bad switch. Or your using the wrong wires.

Bd

Can you check volages?

It’s new and potted. Thinking now to splice into run circuit with red leg and black leg to ground.

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Apr 14, 2022 21:11:42   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Ugly fish wrote:
Coast Guard mandatory for all powered watercraft under 20’ nationwide.


Only NEW powered watercraft. Not the 6million older ones.



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Apr 14, 2022 21:33:21   #
Ugly fish Loc: W Penn
 
Thanks Fred,you are correct; my reading was unclear in my head. Still might hook one up.

Anyone see a problem with grounding the run circuit to shut the engine down?

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Apr 14, 2022 22:02:13   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Ugly fish wrote:
Thanks Fred,you are correct; my reading was unclear in my head. Still might hook one up.

Anyone see a problem with grounding the run circuit to shut the engine down?


If you ground a hot wire, that's a short circuit, and you'll fry the wire. I would get a normally closed switch and install it in the ground wire to the ignition. Then when it trips, it breaks the ground.

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Apr 15, 2022 01:29:50   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Fishnlady wrote:
Hi Jeremy!
That's a beautiful fish you're showing.
Best regards
Fisnlady


It was my PB at the time. A lingcod 36” and 18lbs. Thank You. I hood all is well with you.

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Apr 15, 2022 01:33:03   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Fred’s latest post makes way more sense.

A switch that is always open in any position is broken inside.

Thanks Fred. I was like HuH?

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Apr 15, 2022 08:53:23   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
I wear my lanyard anytime I'm running. Think about it. If you go overboard or pass out the boat is still running wide open. Potentially a real danger to you or anyone near by. A hot shoe won't stop boat but it will come back to idle. Stay safe guys 👍

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