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Apr 1, 2022 12:39:54   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
why do our politicians waste time on things that really don't matter or of no benefit. Case in point
" President Biden signs lynching bill." OK???? has there been a lot of lynching lately? The last one I could find in the US was in 1981 and I have not heard of any poles that said one of the big issues among people today is lynching so why spend time on it. They say this is the first time it has been designated as a "h**e crime". think about that does that mean knifing, shooting, clubbing with a bat are not h**e crimes? If you murder someone no matter how you do it, is it considered an act of love unless our politicians designate it as a h**e crime? Why don't they spend their time tackling the raising crime and murder rate that we are actually experiencing instead of wasting time addressing a crime of over 40 years ago? Why not treat all murders as h**e crimes no matter who is the victim? Isn't that what equal justice under the law means. wouldn't it be more productive to address the 21,570 reported cases of murder last year instead of something that has not happened in this country for 40 years? So is this now going to be the big accomplishment of the Biden administration that they have now designated a crime that hasn't happened in over 40 years a h**e crime? I guess they can say he did something even if it was meaningless

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Apr 1, 2022 12:50:58   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
How does this new law define "lynching"? What does that mean? And this new law won't stop lynching any more than all the laws we have against murder will do anything to stop 21,570 more. Pretty sure it just defines what lynching is and makes it a federal crime that can be prosecuted by the Justice Department.

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Apr 1, 2022 12:53:55   #
dbed Loc: POMME DE TERRE LAKE MISSOURI
 
Just a waste of time

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Apr 1, 2022 12:54:44   #
ripogenu Loc: norfolk, MA
 
DC wrote:
why do our politicians waste time on things that really don't matter or of no benefit. Case in point
" President Biden signs lynching bill." OK???? has there been a lot of lynching lately? The last one I could find in the US was in 1981 and I have not heard of any poles that said one of the big issues among people today is lynching so why spend time on it. They say this is the first time it has been designated as a "h**e crime". think about that does that mean knifing, shooting, clubbing with a bat are not h**e crimes? If you murder someone no matter how you do it, is it considered an act of love unless our politicians designate it as a h**e crime? Why don't they spend their time tackling the raising crime and murder rate that we are actually experiencing instead of wasting time addressing a crime of over 40 years ago? Why not treat all murders as h**e crimes no matter who is the victim? Isn't that what equal justice under the law means. wouldn't it be more productive to address the 21,570 reported cases of murder last year instead of something that has not happened in this country for 40 years? So is this now going to be the big accomplishment of the Biden administration that they have now designated a crime that hasn't happened in over 40 years a h**e crime? I guess they can say he did something even if it was meaningless
why do our politicians waste time on things that r... (show quote)


DC why are you surprised? The little that politicians do today is mostly meaningless,except for the way that they treat the e*****rate (us). Raising taxes, giving money to other countries that don’t need it, using our troops as global policemen, filing meaningless laws, and waiting till the chit hits the fan before they “legislate “. Fire ALL of them.

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Apr 1, 2022 13:13:39   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
How does this new law define "lynching"? What does that mean? And this new law won't stop lynching any more than all the laws we have against murder will do anything to stop 21,570 more. Pretty sure it just defines what lynching is and makes it a federal crime that can be prosecuted by the Justice Department.


well here is the text of the new law but as with all the bills they write and sign and place into law unless you are a lawyer you will never truly know what they mean. it seems like once someone is elected to congress they forget how to speak clearly and concisely. but after reading the below text and then looking up the text for Section 249(a) of title 18, United States Code which this bill amends it is basically just now putting lynching under the h**e crime code. Of course the whole h**e crime act is a bad idea from the start I don't care why a person is murdered the punishment should be the same for the same act. As to what can they do maybe go back to the principle that if a person willfully murders another person taking away the most precious thing from that person their life then the murder is forced to give up their life. non of this life with out parole and out in 12 years for good behavior


An Act



To amend section 249 of title 18, United States Code, to specify
lynching as a h**e crime act.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Emmett Till Antilynching Act''.
SEC. 2. LYNCHING; OTHER CONSPIRACIES.
Section 249(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by
adding at the end the following:
``(5) Lynching.--Whoever conspires to commit any offense under
paragraph (1), (2), or (3) shall, if death or serious bodily injury
(as defined in section 2246 of this title) results from the
offense, be imprisoned for not more than 30 years, fined in
accordance with this title, or both.
``(6) Other conspiracies.--Whoever conspires to commit any
offense under paragraph (1), (2), or (3) shall, if death or serious
bodily injury (as defined in section 2246 of this title) results
from the offense, or if the offense includes kidnapping or an
attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit
aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, be imprisoned for
not more than 30 years, fined in accordance with this title, or
both.''.
SEC. 3. DETERMINATION OF BUDGETARY EFFECTS.
The budgetary effects of this Act, for the purpose of complying
with the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2010, shall be determined by
reference to the latest statement titled ``Budgetary Effects of PAYGO
Legislation'' for this Act, submitted for printing in the Congressional
Record by the Chairman of the House Budget Committee, provided that
such statement has been submitted prior to the v**e on passage.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.

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Apr 1, 2022 13:42:01   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
ripogenu wrote:
DC why are you surprised? The little that politicians do today is mostly meaningless,except for the way that they treat the e*****rate (us). Raising taxes, giving money to other countries that don’t need it, using our troops as global policemen, filing meaningless laws, and waiting till the chit hits the fan before they “legislate “. Fire ALL of them.


rip are you willing to put those words into action? Every two years (this one for sure) our representatives are up for re-e******n. This November, don't v**e for the incumbent, regardless of party. V**e for the other major party. It does no good to v**e for a Green Party or libertarian or other "third" party, you have to v**e either R or D or you're just wasting your v**e. Imagine the message we'd send if everyone did that. We could actually fire every one of them. And put some fear of the people into them without firing a shot! Come on and join me in my goal of "firing everyone of them".

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Apr 1, 2022 14:42:15   #
FixorFish Loc: SW Oregon
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
rip are you willing to put those words into action? Every two years (this one for sure) our representatives are up for re-e******n. This November, don't v**e for the incumbent, regardless of party. V**e for the other major party. It does no good to v**e for a Green Party or libertarian or other "third" party, you have to v**e either R or D or you're just wasting your v**e. Imagine the message we'd send if everyone did that. We could actually fire every one of them. And put some fear of the people into them without firing a shot! Come on and join me in my goal of "firing everyone of them".
rip are you willing to put those words into action... (show quote)


👍👍. We ALREADY have "term limits", we are simply too friggin lazy (or naive?) to exercise our right. So much easier to follow the bouncing ball, while singing the tune that "our" party's leaders tell us to.
I highly regret not stockpiling a bumper sticker that I had on my truck, decades ago....."DO NOT RE-ELECT ANYONE".
My thoughts have always been...."Fine..serve your city, county, state, country, for a SINGLE "term", make your agenda known, implement the necessary procedure to make it happen....TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITIES...WITHOUT DECEPTION !, then return to your job or business for the next "term" to acquire the feedback from the constituents as to how you performed. If you "served well", you may choose to seek that (or higher) office for FURTHER SERVICE TO THE POPULACE.....prove yourself worthy of that trust, once again.... we'll let you know how "worthy" WE think you are, thank you.
As it presently stands, "lazy v**ers" simply look for the "D or R", check the boxes and haven't a clue as to what they just agreed to.
It would be kind to regard these lazy types as "loyal to the party", but it's plain for all to see, that these individuals are simply just "following suit"......IT AIN'T A CARD GAME, FOLKS... IT'S OUR FUTURE, OUR PROGENY'S FUTURE.
We could certainly use some widespread embracement of the Native American's philosophy, when it comes to "consequential choices"......THINK SEVEN GENERATIONS AHEAD ! .................. PLEASE ??!!??

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Apr 1, 2022 15:49:33   #
D Tong Loc: San Francisco,Ca
 
Why is it that we spend more time pondering 🤔 on what others are doing especially in Government than what is going on with our own family members and neighbors and you wonder why they’re is so much stupidity in the world

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Apr 1, 2022 15:55:57   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
D Tong wrote:
Why is it that we spend more time pondering 🤔 on what others are doing especially in Government than what is going on with our own family members and neighbors and you wonder why they’re is so much stupidity in the world

actually i spend a lot of time with family and neighbors much more than government. and most of my concern with government is because of the effect it has on family and where i live

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Apr 1, 2022 16:12:19   #
FixorFish Loc: SW Oregon
 
DC wrote:
actually i spend a lot of time with family and neighbors much more than government. and most of my concern with government is because of the effect it has on family and where i live


👍 Exactly ! The "stupidity" comes by NOT paying attention to the government and how and why they spend OUR money.

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Apr 1, 2022 17:09:22   #
ripogenu Loc: norfolk, MA
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
rip are you willing to put those words into action? Every two years (this one for sure) our representatives are up for re-e******n. This November, don't v**e for the incumbent, regardless of party. V**e for the other major party. It does no good to v**e for a Green Party or libertarian or other "third" party, you have to v**e either R or D or you're just wasting your v**e. Imagine the message we'd send if everyone did that. We could actually fire every one of them. And put some fear of the people into them without firing a shot! Come on and join me in my goal of "firing everyone of them".
rip are you willing to put those words into action... (show quote)


I cannot honestly recall if I ever v**ed for an incumbent, I don't think I have. It is my understanding that independent v**ers outnumber both the D & R combined. it's unfortunate so many of them think they are "wasting" their v**e if they don't v**e for a Major candidate. wouldn't congress have an anxiety attack if 1/3 of the new congressmen/women were complete unknowns!

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Apr 1, 2022 17:38:51   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
I bet no one will ever go out and lynch another after reading this!

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Apr 2, 2022 08:48:27   #
Frank romero Loc: Clovis, NM
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
rip are you willing to put those words into action? Every two years (this one for sure) our representatives are up for re-e******n. This November, don't v**e for the incumbent, regardless of party. V**e for the other major party. It does no good to v**e for a Green Party or libertarian or other "third" party, you have to v**e either R or D or you're just wasting your v**e. Imagine the message we'd send if everyone did that. We could actually fire every one of them. And put some fear of the people into them without firing a shot! Come on and join me in my goal of "firing everyone of them".
rip are you willing to put those words into action... (show quote)




You have a good idea, I’m with you

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Apr 2, 2022 08:48:47   #
Frank romero Loc: Clovis, NM
 
Frank romero wrote:
You have a good idea, I’m with you

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Apr 2, 2022 12:09:27   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
rip are you willing to put those words into action? Every two years (this one for sure) our representatives are up for re-e******n. This November, don't v**e for the incumbent, regardless of party. V**e for the other major party. It does no good to v**e for a Green Party or libertarian or other "third" party, you have to v**e either R or D or you're just wasting your v**e. Imagine the message we'd send if everyone did that. We could actually fire every one of them. And put some fear of the people into them without firing a shot! Come on and join me in my goal of "firing everyone of them".
rip are you willing to put those words into action... (show quote)


that would be pretty easy for me to do since I didn't v**e for any of the elected in my state any way. and yes I did v**e and always do v**e but I have a knack of v****g for the person who looses. I think the change has to start at the local level first it seems by the time it gets to the national level the parties choose the candidate and we are left often with a choice between the least bad. I most of the time v**e for the person who has the platform that agrees closest to my view on issues but again often the person I do not necessarily like but I want someone who will steer the country in the direction I would like it to go. some times the choice is between the person I like and the direction I want the country to go in other times both of the candidates are scum bags, very seldom do I get a Canidate I like as a person who wants to take the country in the direction I want to go and a lot of the times I don't like either Canidate or where they want to take the country in which case I have to just v**e for the one I think will do the least damage instead of the most good.

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