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Feb 23, 2022 16:16:55   #
Brownsville Tony Loc: Brownsville - Laguna Madre
 
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishing in a really nasty surf. I already had one rod out and stuck in a pvc sand-spike and I was getting my second outfit baited up. When I looked over my shoulder at the rod in the sand spike it was laying in the water with waves washing over it. Not good news. So I retrieve it and get the other rod ready. Long story short - both reels had been badly dunked before the day was over. These are Penn 4000's, btw. They cost $29 on sale and its cheaper to buy new ones than to fix any major problems with them. I was taking the first reel apart when I heard that dreaded sound - boing - and I knew there was now a completely decompressed spring rolling around on the floor of the garage somewhere. I found it and continued the clean up. The main shaft and the gear box weren't that bad but they still had to be disassembled and flushed out. (I use Hoppe's 9 solvent for everything like that). I got all that reassembled and started on the bail. That's where the spring came from. The exploded parts diagram doesn't show the parts back together. To make things even worse I suffer from a thing called "ET" that makes my hands tremble a bit. I called Penn fishing and a nice lady took my particulars and said she would have a technician give me a call. Well "Jim" called me the next day, understood my problem immediately and within minutes had emailed me pictures and hints on how to get everything stuffed back together. I say all that as an endorsement for Penn. I know their cheaper reels are made in China, but they are tight, made of good stuff and reliable. And I got to talk to a real, live person who knew what he was talking about and that's got to be worth something "extra" these days.

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Feb 23, 2022 16:25:52   #
lipsticker Loc: Hartford Wisconsin
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishing in a really nasty surf. I already had one rod out and stuck in a pvc sand-spike and I was getting my second outfit baited up. When I looked over my shoulder at the rod in the sand spike it was laying in the water with waves washing over it. Not good news. So I retrieve it and get the other rod ready. Long story short - both reels had been badly dunked before the day was over. These are Penn 4000's, btw. They cost $29 on sale and its cheaper to buy new ones than to fix any major problems with them. I was taking the first reel apart when I heard that dreaded sound - boing - and I knew there was now a completely decompressed spring rolling around on the floor of the garage somewhere. I found it and continued the clean up. The main shaft and the gear box weren't that bad but they still had to be disassembled and flushed out. (I use Hoppe's 9 solvent for everything like that). I got all that reassembled and started on the bail. That's where the spring came from. The exploded parts diagram doesn't show the parts back together. To make things even worse I suffer from a thing called "ET" that makes my hands tremble a bit. I called Penn fishing and a nice lady took my particulars and said she would have a technician give me a call. Well "Jim" called me the next day, understood my problem immediately and within minutes had emailed me pictures and hints on how to get everything stuffed back together. I say all that as an endorsement for Penn. I know their cheaper reels are made in China, but they are tight, made of good stuff and reliable. And I got to talk to a real, live person who knew what he was talking about and that's got to be worth something "extra" these days.
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishin... (show quote)


Okay, Now really dazzle us all and tell us he spoke English too.๐Ÿค

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Feb 23, 2022 17:55:08   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishing in a really nasty surf. I already had one rod out and stuck in a pvc sand-spike and I was getting my second outfit baited up. When I looked over my shoulder at the rod in the sand spike it was laying in the water with waves washing over it. Not good news. So I retrieve it and get the other rod ready. Long story short - both reels had been badly dunked before the day was over. These are Penn 4000's, btw. They cost $29 on sale and its cheaper to buy new ones than to fix any major problems with them. I was taking the first reel apart when I heard that dreaded sound - boing - and I knew there was now a completely decompressed spring rolling around on the floor of the garage somewhere. I found it and continued the clean up. The main shaft and the gear box weren't that bad but they still had to be disassembled and flushed out. (I use Hoppe's 9 solvent for everything like that). I got all that reassembled and started on the bail. That's where the spring came from. The exploded parts diagram doesn't show the parts back together. To make things even worse I suffer from a thing called "ET" that makes my hands tremble a bit. I called Penn fishing and a nice lady took my particulars and said she would have a technician give me a call. Well "Jim" called me the next day, understood my problem immediately and within minutes had emailed me pictures and hints on how to get everything stuffed back together. I say all that as an endorsement for Penn. I know their cheaper reels are made in China, but they are tight, made of good stuff and reliable. And I got to talk to a real, live person who knew what he was talking about and that's got to be worth something "extra" these days.
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishin... (show quote)


That's great Tony. When I first started taking reels apart, I heard that BOING a few times.LOL And you're right, the exploded view parts layouts are confusing. It's the same with every brand I've owned too. Glad you were treated well, and got exactly the help you needed. Bravo Penn!

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Feb 23, 2022 18:01:19   #
Brownsville Tony Loc: Brownsville - Laguna Madre
 
lipsticker wrote:
Okay, Now really dazzle us all and tell us he spoke English too.๐Ÿค


He did! I think he was in Iowa.

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Feb 23, 2022 18:06:32   #
Brownsville Tony Loc: Brownsville - Laguna Madre
 
Fredfish wrote:
That's great Tony. When I first started taking reels apart, I heard that BOING a few times.LOL And you're right, the exploded view parts layouts are confusing. It's the same with every brand I've owned too. Glad you were treated well, and got exactly the help you needed. Bravo Penn!


Pictures like this.





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Feb 23, 2022 18:31:52   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Pictures like this.


Oh yeah, I can see that launching halfway across the room.

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Feb 24, 2022 07:30:13   #
Jer Loc: N. Illinois ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Pictures like this.


I have been in your position more than once. Nice to hear you got great service from Penn.

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Feb 24, 2022 11:07:20   #
kandydisbar Loc: West Orange, NJ
 
That's good news about Penn, sorry for your reels.

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Feb 24, 2022 11:20:11   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Hate to hear that sound, been there done that ,last time it happened I was on all fours being careful , until my dog jumping on me and thought I wanted to play !

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Feb 24, 2022 11:20:32   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Started!

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Feb 24, 2022 12:18:34   #
Brownsville Tony Loc: Brownsville - Laguna Madre
 
kandydisbar wrote:
That's good news about Penn, sorry for your reels.


Just a few days before that I was going to make a couple of aluminum sand-spikes and I never got around to it. Procrastination has a way of getting even and it is patient. I still haven't made them, but they are high on my priority list.

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Feb 24, 2022 12:58:26   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Pictures like this.


That one is simple. You put the spring on the round thing then push the thing in the hole with a twist. Then you push in the thing with whatever thing you have that will work. While doing that, you slide the thingy with the handle over it and use that other thing to clamp it on. After that is done, then throw that extra thing still in the parts bowl out. You probably don't need it anyway. Like I said, that is a simple one. Imagine how tough it would be if you tried to fix a reel with those other roller things on it.

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Feb 24, 2022 13:34:55   #
OLDNDN Loc: Merced County, Calif.
 
bapabear wrote:
That one is simple. You put the spring on the round thing then push the thing in the hole with a twist. Then you push in the thing with whatever thing you have that will work. While doing that, you slide the thingy with the handle over it and use that other thing to clamp it on. After that is done, then throw that extra thing still in the parts bowl out. You probably don't need it anyway. Like I said, that is a simple one. Imagine how tough it would be if you tried to fix a reel with those other roller things on it.
That one is simple. You put the spring on the rou... (show quote)


Yea I agree. Iโ€™ve those things lying all over so I took the big thing that started all the little things and threw it in the garbage.

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Feb 24, 2022 13:48:57   #
HenryG Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts
 
lipsticker wrote:
Okay, Now really dazzle us all and tell us he spoke English too.๐Ÿค


And the reel worked better than it was new๐Ÿ˜Œ

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Feb 24, 2022 13:53:01   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
Brownsville Tony wrote:
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishing in a really nasty surf. I already had one rod out and stuck in a pvc sand-spike and I was getting my second outfit baited up. When I looked over my shoulder at the rod in the sand spike it was laying in the water with waves washing over it. Not good news. So I retrieve it and get the other rod ready. Long story short - both reels had been badly dunked before the day was over. These are Penn 4000's, btw. They cost $29 on sale and its cheaper to buy new ones than to fix any major problems with them. I was taking the first reel apart when I heard that dreaded sound - boing - and I knew there was now a completely decompressed spring rolling around on the floor of the garage somewhere. I found it and continued the clean up. The main shaft and the gear box weren't that bad but they still had to be disassembled and flushed out. (I use Hoppe's 9 solvent for everything like that). I got all that reassembled and started on the bail. That's where the spring came from. The exploded parts diagram doesn't show the parts back together. To make things even worse I suffer from a thing called "ET" that makes my hands tremble a bit. I called Penn fishing and a nice lady took my particulars and said she would have a technician give me a call. Well "Jim" called me the next day, understood my problem immediately and within minutes had emailed me pictures and hints on how to get everything stuffed back together. I say all that as an endorsement for Penn. I know their cheaper reels are made in China, but they are tight, made of good stuff and reliable. And I got to talk to a real, live person who knew what he was talking about and that's got to be worth something "extra" these days.
Last Friday, I think it was - we went beach fishin... (show quote)


I have used Penn many years ago before China mfr came into the picture and they were always dependable. Have no experience with China made Penn reels. I suggest you consider getting a concentrated liquid Salt X. It neutralizes salt, but is not a solvent so won't attack your reel's lube or the line. If I am on a trip where I can't wash down my rod and reel after fishing the salt, I have a little spray bottle to squirt on the reel and the guides.

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