All the discussion about Solunar Tables, and tides made me think, are there tide tables for the Great Lakes? Went to Cleveland many years ago on company business and went out to Erie Shoreline out of curiosity. Pretty impressive to a guy who's entire state is smaller than that body of water, big cargo ships, huge waves, etc. Couldn't help but notice what appeared to be tide lines!
So do they publish tide tables and do fishermen use them ?
Later during the trip went back out there and experienced what I guess was lake effect snow blowing off lake from NW direction, impressed again. Got outta Dodge in a hurry, didn't want to bury a rental car in the snow.
Any thoughts? ........ N4F
Well, it was driving me nutz, so I found the answer with NOAA. Not really tides, but seiches. They are variations in water due to winds and atmospheric pressure . All the graphs and science are on their site if you are interested. Some major events going back to the worst in 1844 have hit Lake Erie. In that one a surge breached a seawall and 78 people were killed. But they are not true tidal events. Guess I just went at the time when one had recently occurred. Wasn't there for a weather report, employer was not paying me for that. Still, I had some interesting experiences there. Too bad the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didnt exist in the 70's. That would have been cool.
flyguy
Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
nutz4fish wrote:
All the discussion about Solunar Tables, and tides made me think, are there tide tables for the Great Lakes? Went to Cleveland many years ago on company business and went out to Erie Shoreline out of curiosity. Pretty impressive to a guy who's entire state is smaller than that body of water, big cargo ships, huge waves, etc. Couldn't help but notice what appeared to be tide lines!
So do they publish tide tables and do fishermen use them ?
Later during the trip went back out there and experienced what I guess was lake effect snow blowing off lake from NW direction, impressed again. Got outta Dodge in a hurry, didn't want to bury a rental car in the snow.
Any thoughts? ........ N4F
Well, it was driving me nutz, so I found the answer with NOAA. Not really tides, but seiches. They are variations in water due to winds and atmospheric pressure . All the graphs and science are on their site if you are interested. Some major events going back to the worst in 1844 have hit Lake Erie. In that one a surge breached a seawall and 78 people were killed. But they are not true tidal events. Guess I just went at the time when one had recently occurred. Wasn't there for a weather report, employer was not paying me for that. Still, I had some interesting experiences there. Too bad the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didnt exist in the 70's. That would have been cool.
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Mornin', nutz, Interesting, the tides in AK are 8' - 10' and the tides on the Gulf are only about 1' - 2'. I wonder what the tides in Italy or Hawaii are?
flyguy wrote:
Mornin', nutz, Interesting, the tides in AK are 8' - 10' and the tides on the Gulf are only about 1' - 2'. I wonder what the tides in Italy or Hawaii are?
Fly .....Don't know, but tides in Nova Scotia are monsters. Not sure why but someday will research this. This is the kinda stuff that makes the WWweb so cool, no more trips to the library like in pre 1980's .
I’ve never seen such a thing for Lake Erie. I live a mile from the shore line and have never noticed a tide. If there’s a strong south wind it will expose more beach but that’s as close as it gets. I think?!
I know there are rip tides created by the waves that are quite dangerous.
J in Cleveland wrote:
I’ve never seen such a thing for Lake Erie. I live a mile from the shore line and have never noticed a tide. If there’s a strong south wind it will expose more beach but that’s as close as it gets. I think?!
I know there are rip tides created by the waves that are quite dangerous.
Lake Effect snow is the worst! Come visit again. Cleveland is way cooler now than it was in the 70’s. If you do look me up!
Gordon
Loc: Charleston South Carolina
nutz4fish wrote:
All the discussion about Solunar Tables, and tides made me think, are there tide tables for the Great Lakes? Went to Cleveland many years ago on company business and went out to Erie Shoreline out of curiosity. Pretty impressive to a guy who's entire state is smaller than that body of water, big cargo ships, huge waves, etc. Couldn't help but notice what appeared to be tide lines!
So do they publish tide tables and do fishermen use them ?
Later during the trip went back out there and experienced what I guess was lake effect snow blowing off lake from NW direction, impressed again. Got outta Dodge in a hurry, didn't want to bury a rental car in the snow.
Any thoughts? ........ N4F
Well, it was driving me nutz, so I found the answer with NOAA. Not really tides, but seiches. They are variations in water due to winds and atmospheric pressure . All the graphs and science are on their site if you are interested. Some major events going back to the worst in 1844 have hit Lake Erie. In that one a surge breached a seawall and 78 people were killed. But they are not true tidal events. Guess I just went at the time when one had recently occurred. Wasn't there for a weather report, employer was not paying me for that. Still, I had some interesting experiences there. Too bad the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didnt exist in the 70's. That would have been cool.
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Never heard of tides in a lake. Very interesting.
J in Cleveland wrote:
I’ve never seen such a thing for Lake Erie. I live a mile from the shore line and have never noticed a tide. If there’s a strong south wind it will expose more beach but that’s as close as it gets. I think?!
I know there are rip tides created by the waves that are quite dangerous.
I'm pretty sure this was 1976. What I noticed was about 30 feet of what I thought was the tide line. Found that quite curious. Placed a rock down to try to determine if the water was retracting, but it was slack for about Twenty minutes. Had to leave then, the lady that was showing me around was getting impatient, and I had promised her I'd take her to dinner. It was chilly and windy too. We went to a place in called The Brown Derby, I think it was in Highland Hieghts, and had a bite and a bunch o' drinks. Nice girl, nice time. I've always had good luck meeting friendly people. By the way, I found Ohio folks really nice and helpful when I got lost on another adventure there. No GPS back then !
So, anyhow, I guess it was that stuff that the NOAA talked about, and not a tidal event.
If I ever get back out your way, I'll look ya up. N4F
Gordon
Loc: Charleston South Carolina
flyguy wrote:
Mornin', nutz, Interesting, the tides in AK are 8' - 10' and the tides on the Gulf are only about 1' - 2'. I wonder what the tides in Italy or Hawaii are?
I always thought the closer to the equator the less the difference from high to low. This chart shows the tides around the world. Bluer color the less difference in the tide. The darker red the bigger the difference. Some places have over 16 ft. From low to high.
nutz4fish wrote:
I'm pretty sure this was 1976. What I noticed was about 30 feet of what I thought was the tide line. Found that quite curious. Placed a rock down to try to determine if the water was retracting, but it was slack for about Twenty minutes. Had to leave then, the lady that was showing me around was getting impatient, and I had promised her I'd take her to dinner. It was chilly and windy too. We went to a place in called The Brown Derby, I think it was in Highland Hieghts, and had a bite and a bunch o' drinks. Nice girl, nice time. I've always had good luck meeting friendly people. By the way, I found Ohio folks really nice and helpful when I got lost on another adventure there. No GPS back then !
So, anyhow, I guess it was that stuff that the NOAA talked about, and not a tidal event.
If I ever get back out your way, I'll look ya up. N4F
I'm pretty sure this was 1976. What I noticed was ... (
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Brown Derby in Highland Heights was a few minutes from my Grandparents house. It’s been gone since the 90’s. I would say Ohio is an overall friendly place. Cleveland especially has a small town feel for a city!
nutz4fish wrote:
Fly .....Don't know, but tides in Nova Scotia are monsters. Not sure why but someday will research this. This is the kinda stuff that makes the WWweb so cool, no more trips to the library like in pre 1980's .
Long narrow bays. When the tides get funneled down as the waterway narrows the extra water can't spread out so it goes up. Look up Bay of Fundy.
The closer you are to the equator the smaller the tides. The time change from winter to summer also is less the closer you get to the equator. Leave Jan. 6th to do some surf fishing on Maui. I hope to share some pics soon.
SDC MAUI
The amplitude of the tide is directly proportional to the mass. The great lakes have substantially less mass than the oceans, so less tidal action.
flyguy wrote:
Mornin', nutz, Interesting, the tides in AK are 8' - 10' and the tides on the Gulf are only about 1' - 2'. I wonder what the tides in Italy or Hawaii are?
Just an FYI. Some locations in Alaska have 20 foot plus tides as does Nova Scotia.
sdcmaui wrote:
The closer you are to the equator the smaller the tides. The time change from winter to summer also is less the closer you get to the equator. Leave Jan. 6th to do some surf fishing on Maui. I hope to share some pics soon.
SDC MAUI
Even without any fish, and I hope that's not the case, by all means send us some photos of Maui.
Just seeing that should warm up this Yankee some.
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