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Dec 2, 2021 14:59:56   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
https://youtu.be/h9YlIG9ofGM

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Dec 2, 2021 15:00:43   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
https://youtu.be/fRipKGsLkTQ

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Dec 2, 2021 15:57:21   #
D Tong Loc: San Francisco,Ca
 
Wow very powerful post Oz to bad not everyone heeds the message spoken

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Dec 2, 2021 19:30:15   #
Blackdog Loc: Round Rock, TX
 
EasternOZ wrote:
https://youtu.be/fRipKGsLkTQ


WOW!

OZ, why do you put that on the stage?



BD

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Dec 2, 2021 19:37:32   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
Blackdog wrote:
WOW!

OZ, why do you put that on the stage?



BD



Just one of those days I suppose.

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Dec 2, 2021 19:37:51   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
D Tong wrote:
Wow very powerful post Oz to bad not everyone heeds the message spoken


I concur.

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Dec 2, 2021 20:10:37   #
Blackdog Loc: Round Rock, TX
 
Not really guys.

Genocide, sure. During the European expansion. yep.
No mention of the Conquistadors, Disease, etc.

No mention of the Many Indian Nations that refused the invitation to grow with change.
No Apache, No Comanche.

No Rape and pillage, No scalping and hedonistic savage ways.

On the one hand I find the Sioux remarkable people.
On the other hand I find the Indian nations behind the times.

Let's skip all of that......

He is correct, they are Americans and should now be treated as such.

My mother once said to me, son, if you try to help a wild animal and it bites you again and again, how many times will you put your hand into its cage?

For the record, I am part Cherokee....very small part.

I still don't get why you would post such a controversial video here?


BD

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Dec 2, 2021 21:07:07   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Blackdog wrote:
Not really guys.

Genocide, sure. During the European expansion. yep.
No mention of the Conquistadors, Disease, etc.

No mention of the Many Indian Nations that refused the invitation to grow with change.
No Apache, No Comanche.

No Rape and pillage, No scalping and hedonistic savage ways.

On the one hand I find the Sioux remarkable people.
On the other hand I find the Indian nations behind the times.

Let's skip all of that......

He is correct, they are Americans and should now be treated as such.

My mother once said to me, son, if you try to help a wild animal and it bites you again and again, how many times will you put your hand into its cage?

For the record, I am part Cherokee....very small part.

I still don't get why you would post such a controversial video here?


BD
Not really guys. br br Genocide, sure. During the... (show quote)


For one it’s the appropriate place and for two we all need to wake up to what’s going on which is not far from what these videos portray.

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Dec 2, 2021 21:56:42   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Blackdog wrote:
No its not, it is not appropriate to put the dynamic destruction and genocide of the American Indians here any more than it is appropriate to talk about race or any other atrocities. This is a fishing website you fucking moron.

If OZ wishes to stir the s**t then there is plenty of places he can do so.

The admin should nip this s**t in the bud.

Yep, there is ton of discussion around that video and it points out some very t***hful unfair practices toward the Indian nations....Period.

Your comment, "we all need to wake up to what’s going on which is no far from what these videos portray." Is typical of you. Be more specific. How have you experienced what the Sioux Indian nation is experiencing?

Are you referring to the migration towards socialism? Are you referring to Black l***s m****r? are you referring to Gun control or perhaps mask and v*****e mandates?

I like OZ but he is a dick for flipping this one out there without comment.

BD
No its not, it is not appropriate to put the dynam... (show quote)


You, maybe, need to watch the video again. With your anger issue with this it’s obvious you missed the entire point of the message. Black l***s m****r has nothing to do with it but the others you mention surely do. Do I need to explain to you what was being said in the videos?
You may not understand the categorization of this forum. The attic is NOT a fishing section. If you get upset about anything not related to fishing I would suggest you stay away from discussions in the attic.
And thank you for the judgment and kind words.

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Dec 2, 2021 22:13:14   #
Blackdog Loc: Round Rock, TX
 
Catfish h****r wrote:
You, maybe, need to watch the video again. With your anger issue with this it’s obvious you missed the entire point of the message. Black l***s m****r has nothing to do with it but the others you mention surely do. Do I need to explain to you what was being said in the videos?
You may not understand the categorization of this forum. The attic is NOT a fishing section. If you get upset about anything not related to fishing I would suggest you stay away from discussions in the attic.
And thank you for the judgment and kind words.
You, maybe, need to watch the video again. With yo... (show quote)


My apologies.

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Dec 2, 2021 23:52:35   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Blackdog wrote:
My apologies.


No worries👍

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Dec 3, 2021 12:09:52   #
nutz4fish Loc: Colchester, CT
 
Catfish h****r wrote:
You, maybe, need to watch the video again. With your anger issue with this it’s obvious you missed the entire point of the message. Black l***s m****r has nothing to do with it but the others you mention surely do. Do I need to explain to you what was being said in the videos?
You may not understand the categorization of this forum. The attic is NOT a fishing section. If you get upset about anything not related to fishing I would suggest you stay away from discussions in the attic.
And thank you for the judgment and kind words.
You, maybe, need to watch the video again. With yo... (show quote)


.................
I'm replying to not only agree with the second paragraph, above, but to also comment on the makeup pf the forum.
Initially, I thought the attic was unneeded and actually sort of silly. But as time passed, my mind changed. It's good to have discussions on stuff unrelated to fishing, we're not JUST anglers but have other opinions/ concerns/ ideas. Just don't need em interfering with our core mission , exchanging information about fishing.
As stated, you can just remove the attic from your list if it annoys you That option here is well thought out and could be very good if you choose to exercise the option(s).
..............

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Dec 3, 2021 12:41:27   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Blackdog wrote:
Not really guys.

Genocide, sure. During the European expansion. yep.
No mention of the Conquistadors, Disease, etc.

No mention of the Many Indian Nations that refused the invitation to grow with change.
No Apache, No Comanche.

No Rape and pillage, No scalping and hedonistic savage ways.

On the one hand I find the Sioux remarkable people.
On the other hand I find the Indian nations behind the times.

Let's skip all of that......

He is correct, they are Americans and should now be treated as such.

My mother once said to me, son, if you try to help a wild animal and it bites you again and again, how many times will you put your hand into its cage?

For the record, I am part Cherokee....very small part.

I still don't get why you would post such a controversial video here?


BD
Not really guys. br br Genocide, sure. During the... (show quote)

Ive said many times here on Stage that I'm half Mescalero Apache/ Mexican American , My Mom is full blooded Mescalero Apache,, and I'm a Very proud Man, That being said, that was a wonderful Message/ Reminder, that was posted , I don't see anything wrong with Oz's post , let's not forget BD this is the Attic,,,,,

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