When fishing in younger years I used 8-12# mono line and never a leader. Caught many a pike mostly under 25” but never a bite off. Recently have went over to braided lines and really enjoy the differences. This past summer I fished non-musky lakes for walleye and pike without a leader (floro or steel) and have experienced 3 bite-offs, one was a pike and not seeing the other two fish can assume they are most likely pike.
Does braided line bite off easier? I’m using 12# test. How about going up to 20# or will I need to be using a leader?
Never had a bite off in fresh water using braid. Check your knot.
That’s the first thing I look at. All three were frayed. I tug hard on the knots and use a light drag.
It sure does cut easier with the toothy fish. Try going up by 10lbs. on your main line with mono leader, at least 2 or 3 feet long. Good luck and keep them lines tight my friend.
That I will do. Thank you!
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
Ryp Hankins wrote:
That I will do. Thank you!
Why couldn't you go up to 30 or 40 # braid?
We use 30# striper fishin and cast bout 30 to 35 yards with it usein a 1/2 OZ Spro.
flyguy
Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
It is MHO that fish can see braided lines. So, I always use braid, but with a fluoro. leader. But I also use circle hooks, whether I'm fishing freshwater or saltwater and I usually use live bait. I very seldom have a bite off, if I do, I consider it the cost of doing business. Tight lines.
saw1 wrote:
Why couldn't you go up to 30 or 40 # braid?
We use 30# striper fishin and cast bout 30 to 35 yards with it usein a 1/2 OZ Spro.
And I may yet for the spring outfit. My muskie and salmon rig has 50# power pro. Love how braid casts. It’s nasty little pike and muskie with scissor teeth that are the need for leaders.
JackM
Loc: North East Florida
Braid is not as abrasion resistant as mono or fluoro. I would recommend you use a leader. It is less viable to the fish as a bonus.
In coastal areas you can find six inch black steel leaders if you're concerned about visibility.
JackM wrote:
Braid is not as abrasion resistant as mono or fluoro. I would recommend you use a leader. It is less viable to the fish as a bonus.
That’s my next move, tying mono leaders and getting heavier test braid. I love fishing with it.
Question: for those bringing up braided line being more visible, what about fly guys? That line has got to be even worse for visibility yet they catch fish. I’m taking to heart all I’m reading.
flyguy wrote:
It is MHO that fish can see braided lines. So, I always use braid, but with a fluoro. leader. But I also use circle hooks, whether I'm fishing freshwater or saltwater and I usually use live bait. I very seldom have a bite off, if I do, I consider it the cost of doing business. Tight lines.
I've always used braid on my bass rods and most times lure tied on it no trace, the water is crystal clear and always catch bass and sometimes crappie. There's big cats and bowfin in there too, can drag them out with 20lb braid.
Well one person says something, and another proves him/her wrong. Now who do they believe? If ever you can get a mask and look under water, you will see almost every type of line there is, tugging in a lure. I use straight braid, and a friend of mine uses fc. We went out and caught over 55 perch, on jigs, below a stopper. Whereas he caught 16 of them, using the same everything, with the exception of stopper, and line. I even told him to fish around that cypress tree, a likely spot. He did, and did, and did. Nothing!! So I tried, dropped it in the same place and pulled out another. I was using 10# braid.
PaulC
Loc: Menomonie, Wisconsin
I agree except replace mono with fluorocarbon which was already mentioned but really it is better. Keep the braid main line. Suffix is OK.
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