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Oct 29, 2021 19:40:34   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for, especially if you have any reason to be receiving congratulations etc. for any reason.

This is very clever.  I would probably fall for it, if not warned.  Give this wide distribution.  This s**m is very clever.  Just when you thought you'd heard it all.   Beware of people bearing gifts!

The following is a recounting of the incident from the victim:

Wednesday a week ago, I had a phone call from someone saying that he was from some outfit called: "Express Couriers,"  (The name could be any courier company).  He asked if I was going to be home because there was a package for me that required a signature.

The caller said that the delivery would arrive at my home in approximately an hour.  Sure enough, about an hour later, a uniformed delivery man turned up with a beautiful basket of flowers and a bottle of wine.  I was very surprised, since there was no special occasion or holiday, and I, certainly, didn't expect anything like it.  Intrigued, I inquired as to who the sender was.

The courier replied, "I don't know, I'm only delivering the package."

Apparently, a greeting card was being sent separately.  (The card has never arrived!)  There was also a consignment note with the gift.

He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a $3.50 "delivery/ verification charge," providing proof that he actually had delivered the package to an adult (of legal drinking age), and not just left it on the doorstep where it could be stolen or taken by anyone, especially a minor.

This sounded logical and I offered to pay him cash.   He then said that the delivery company required payment to be by credit or debit card only, so that everything is properly accounted for, and this would help in keeping a legal record of the t***saction.

He added, "Couriers don't carry cash to avoid loss or being, likely, targets for robbery."

My husband, who by this time was standing beside me, pulled out his credit card, and the "delivery man," asked him to swipe the card on a small mobile card machine with a small screen and keypad.  Frank, my husband, was asked to enter his PIN number and a receipt was printed out.  He was given a copy of the t***saction.

The guy said everything was in order, and wished us good day, and left.

To our horrible surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, $4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines.

Apparently, the "mobile credit card machine," which the deliveryman carried, now, had all the info necessary to create a "dummy" card with all our card details including the PIN number.

Upon finding out about the illegal t***sactions on our card, we, immediately, notified the bank which issued us a new card, and our credit/debit account was closed.

We, also, personally, went to the police, where it was confirmed that it is, definitely, a s**m because several households had been similarly hit.

WARNING: Be wary of accepting any "surprise gift or package," which you neither expected nor personally ordered, especially if it involves any kind of payment as a condition of receiving the gift or package.  Also, never accept anything if you do not, personally, know or there is no proper identification of who the sender is.

Above all, the only time you should give out any personal credit/debit card information is when you yourself initiated the purchase or t***saction!

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Oct 29, 2021 19:48:25   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
EasternOZ wrote:
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for, especially if you have any reason to be receiving congratulations etc. for any reason.

This is very clever.  I would probably fall for it, if not warned.  Give this wide distribution.  This s**m is very clever.  Just when you thought you'd heard it all.   Beware of people bearing gifts!

The following is a recounting of the incident from the victim:

Wednesday a week ago, I had a phone call from someone saying that he was from some outfit called: "Express Couriers,"  (The name could be any courier company).  He asked if I was going to be home because there was a package for me that required a signature.

The caller said that the delivery would arrive at my home in approximately an hour.  Sure enough, about an hour later, a uniformed delivery man turned up with a beautiful basket of flowers and a bottle of wine.  I was very surprised, since there was no special occasion or holiday, and I, certainly, didn't expect anything like it.  Intrigued, I inquired as to who the sender was.

The courier replied, "I don't know, I'm only delivering the package."

Apparently, a greeting card was being sent separately.  (The card has never arrived!)  There was also a consignment note with the gift.

He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a $3.50 "delivery/ verification charge," providing proof that he actually had delivered the package to an adult (of legal drinking age), and not just left it on the doorstep where it could be stolen or taken by anyone, especially a minor.

This sounded logical and I offered to pay him cash.   He then said that the delivery company required payment to be by credit or debit card only, so that everything is properly accounted for, and this would help in keeping a legal record of the t***saction.

He added, "Couriers don't carry cash to avoid loss or being, likely, targets for robbery."

My husband, who by this time was standing beside me, pulled out his credit card, and the "delivery man," asked him to swipe the card on a small mobile card machine with a small screen and keypad.  Frank, my husband, was asked to enter his PIN number and a receipt was printed out.  He was given a copy of the t***saction.

The guy said everything was in order, and wished us good day, and left.

To our horrible surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, $4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines.

Apparently, the "mobile credit card machine," which the deliveryman carried, now, had all the info necessary to create a "dummy" card with all our card details including the PIN number.

Upon finding out about the illegal t***sactions on our card, we, immediately, notified the bank which issued us a new card, and our credit/debit account was closed.

We, also, personally, went to the police, where it was confirmed that it is, definitely, a s**m because several households had been similarly hit.

WARNING: Be wary of accepting any "surprise gift or package," which you neither expected nor personally ordered, especially if it involves any kind of payment as a condition of receiving the gift or package.  Also, never accept anything if you do not, personally, know or there is no proper identification of who the sender is.

Above all, the only time you should give out any personal credit/debit card information is when you yourself initiated the purchase or t***saction!
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for,... (show quote)



There is definitely some res f**gs on this s**m. The only good part is it is a credit card so you have recourse. I think some s**mmers want it to be CC so the banks don’t track them because insured.

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Oct 29, 2021 19:52:58   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
EasternOZ wrote:
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for, especially if you have any reason to be receiving congratulations etc. for any reason.

This is very clever.  I would probably fall for it, if not warned.  Give this wide distribution.  This s**m is very clever.  Just when you thought you'd heard it all.   Beware of people bearing gifts!

The following is a recounting of the incident from the victim:

Wednesday a week ago, I had a phone call from someone saying that he was from some outfit called: "Express Couriers,"  (The name could be any courier company).  He asked if I was going to be home because there was a package for me that required a signature.

The caller said that the delivery would arrive at my home in approximately an hour.  Sure enough, about an hour later, a uniformed delivery man turned up with a beautiful basket of flowers and a bottle of wine.  I was very surprised, since there was no special occasion or holiday, and I, certainly, didn't expect anything like it.  Intrigued, I inquired as to who the sender was.

The courier replied, "I don't know, I'm only delivering the package."

Apparently, a greeting card was being sent separately.  (The card has never arrived!)  There was also a consignment note with the gift.

He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a $3.50 "delivery/ verification charge," providing proof that he actually had delivered the package to an adult (of legal drinking age), and not just left it on the doorstep where it could be stolen or taken by anyone, especially a minor.

This sounded logical and I offered to pay him cash.   He then said that the delivery company required payment to be by credit or debit card only, so that everything is properly accounted for, and this would help in keeping a legal record of the t***saction.

He added, "Couriers don't carry cash to avoid loss or being, likely, targets for robbery."

My husband, who by this time was standing beside me, pulled out his credit card, and the "delivery man," asked him to swipe the card on a small mobile card machine with a small screen and keypad.  Frank, my husband, was asked to enter his PIN number and a receipt was printed out.  He was given a copy of the t***saction.

The guy said everything was in order, and wished us good day, and left.

To our horrible surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, $4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines.

Apparently, the "mobile credit card machine," which the deliveryman carried, now, had all the info necessary to create a "dummy" card with all our card details including the PIN number.

Upon finding out about the illegal t***sactions on our card, we, immediately, notified the bank which issued us a new card, and our credit/debit account was closed.

We, also, personally, went to the police, where it was confirmed that it is, definitely, a s**m because several households had been similarly hit.

WARNING: Be wary of accepting any "surprise gift or package," which you neither expected nor personally ordered, especially if it involves any kind of payment as a condition of receiving the gift or package.  Also, never accept anything if you do not, personally, know or there is no proper identification of who the sender is.

Above all, the only time you should give out any personal credit/debit card information is when you yourself initiated the purchase or t***saction!
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for,... (show quote)


Thanks OZ for the heads up. Good to know that. I agree bout signin for or givin your info out to people you don't initiate a t***saction with.

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Oct 29, 2021 19:54:59   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
Jeremy wrote:
There is definitely some res f**gs on this s**m. The only good part is it is a credit card so you have recourse. I think some s**mmers want it to be CC so the banks don’t track them because insured.



Very possible.

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Oct 29, 2021 19:58:08   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
saw1 wrote:
Thanks OZ for the heads up. Good to know that. I agree bout signin for or givin your info out to people you don't initiate a t***saction with.



Yep one can never be overly cautious these days.

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Oct 29, 2021 20:04:42   #
plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland
 
That sure beats the Microsoft fellow ( John ) with a heavy foreign accent that i just hung up on. Never heard his spew the accent with a name of John gave that away.

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Oct 29, 2021 20:31:30   #
Danger25 Loc: Philly/ Cape may New Jersey
 
They’re clever….and will never stop.

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Oct 30, 2021 06:01:07   #
Slimshady Loc: Central Pennsylvania
 
Thanks for the heads up Oz. I can see how that would make you drop your guard

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Oct 30, 2021 06:36:24   #
plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland
 
Do you all get the s**ms where they say we have retrieved funds from your debit / checking account to make a payment on your account? And to call # ******* if you have a question concerning this t***saction.

Then there is the f**e pay pal and Amazon orders and to please verify your purchase.

F ing s**mmers. They do prey on all of us.

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Oct 30, 2021 07:16:41   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
EasternOZ wrote:
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for, especially if you have any reason to be receiving congratulations etc. for any reason.

This is very clever.  I would probably fall for it, if not warned.  Give this wide distribution.  This s**m is very clever.  Just when you thought you'd heard it all.   Beware of people bearing gifts!

The following is a recounting of the incident from the victim:

Wednesday a week ago, I had a phone call from someone saying that he was from some outfit called: "Express Couriers,"  (The name could be any courier company).  He asked if I was going to be home because there was a package for me that required a signature.

The caller said that the delivery would arrive at my home in approximately an hour.  Sure enough, about an hour later, a uniformed delivery man turned up with a beautiful basket of flowers and a bottle of wine.  I was very surprised, since there was no special occasion or holiday, and I, certainly, didn't expect anything like it.  Intrigued, I inquired as to who the sender was.

The courier replied, "I don't know, I'm only delivering the package."

Apparently, a greeting card was being sent separately.  (The card has never arrived!)  There was also a consignment note with the gift.

He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a $3.50 "delivery/ verification charge," providing proof that he actually had delivered the package to an adult (of legal drinking age), and not just left it on the doorstep where it could be stolen or taken by anyone, especially a minor.

This sounded logical and I offered to pay him cash.   He then said that the delivery company required payment to be by credit or debit card only, so that everything is properly accounted for, and this would help in keeping a legal record of the t***saction.

He added, "Couriers don't carry cash to avoid loss or being, likely, targets for robbery."

My husband, who by this time was standing beside me, pulled out his credit card, and the "delivery man," asked him to swipe the card on a small mobile card machine with a small screen and keypad.  Frank, my husband, was asked to enter his PIN number and a receipt was printed out.  He was given a copy of the t***saction.

The guy said everything was in order, and wished us good day, and left.

To our horrible surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, $4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines.

Apparently, the "mobile credit card machine," which the deliveryman carried, now, had all the info necessary to create a "dummy" card with all our card details including the PIN number.

Upon finding out about the illegal t***sactions on our card, we, immediately, notified the bank which issued us a new card, and our credit/debit account was closed.

We, also, personally, went to the police, where it was confirmed that it is, definitely, a s**m because several households had been similarly hit.

WARNING: Be wary of accepting any "surprise gift or package," which you neither expected nor personally ordered, especially if it involves any kind of payment as a condition of receiving the gift or package.  Also, never accept anything if you do not, personally, know or there is no proper identification of who the sender is.

Above all, the only time you should give out any personal credit/debit card information is when you yourself initiated the purchase or t***saction!
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! This would be easy to fall for,... (show quote)


I can see a lot of people falling for that one. Thanks, OZ.

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