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Oct 29, 2021 11:14:26   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
of course we knew that from the very beginning when we were told wearing masks would not be beneficial since they were not fine enough to keep out v***ses but then it became political and t***h did not matter it was a political game of do something anything doesn't matter if it really solved the problem what mattered was you could blame the other guy for not doing it and show how much you cared by doing it even if it had no meaningful effect. Sadly we are still locked into this political game. I just had an outpatient surgery where my wife had to be onsite incase they needed to get in contact with her but due to "c***d restrictions" she was not allowed to wait in side the hospital in a waiting room where all the chairs were now 6' apart even though she was fully v******ted, wearing a mask and had no symptoms. She couldn't wait in the car since there was no cell reception in the parking garage and we were in the midst of a "atmospheric river" rain and wind event. so since no one could wait inside the hospital they all crowded together under a protected area by the entry with no where to sit, no room to social distant and no screening for symptoms. But the hospital was doing there part following our governor's guidelines showing how much he cared by keeping people safe by putting in force a bunch of i***tic mandates that are unnecessary and non productive

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Oct 29, 2021 11:22:28   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
kandydisbar wrote:
I still remember the one who sued because of coffee that was too hot. Whaaa?


I remember that Kandy. If I remember right she put it between her legs while driving. Stupid n illegal but companies have to pay. Dated a woman that handled commercial lawsuits. Unbelievable the stupidity of people. One sued a company for NOT having a warning stating if you drop a 5lb box of frozen shrimp on your foot you may get injured. Company settles instead of going through the courts. Stuff shouldn't even be considered 🤬

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Oct 29, 2021 11:35:12   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
plumbob wrote:
Sounds like a F***i question. I bet he would set us straight.
Sounds like a F***i question. I bet he would set u... (show quote)


He couldn't set a plumb-line
straight with a 10-lb. weight !

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Oct 29, 2021 14:39:17   #
Ne. fisherman Loc: Central Nebraska Arnold
 
Just as well duct tape a paper towel over your mouth and nose, then you would know you had a effective seal, or I always thought the Cotex mask looked quite effective! 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂🤪🤪

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Oct 29, 2021 15:22:14   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
Surgical masks were invented in the early 1900s. They were used regularly starting in the 1960s. If my math is correct, that would be 60+ years. Anyone who has been in a hospital for surgery and sometimes other reasons, has seen doctors and nurses with masks on.

Here's my question, if they don't protect the person wearing them or the patient from anything at all, why would they be wearing them for over 60 years?
Wouldn't some medical professional say, "this serves no purpose to anyone?"

Just askin.
Surgical masks were invented in the early 1900s. T... (show quote)



Exactly. I think your best to ask scientists and people educated on the topic. Bunch of people that know what you posted is why we are using them as compared to people that disagree with logic that you posted.

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Oct 29, 2021 15:27:08   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
DC wrote:
of course we knew that from the very beginning when we were told wearing masks would not be beneficial since they were not fine enough to keep out v***ses but then it became political and t***h did not matter it was a political game of do something anything doesn't matter if it really solved the problem what mattered was you could blame the other guy for not doing it and show how much you cared by doing it even if it had no meaningful effect. Sadly we are still locked into this political game. I just had an outpatient surgery where my wife had to be onsite incase they needed to get in contact with her but due to "c***d restrictions" she was not allowed to wait in side the hospital in a waiting room where all the chairs were now 6' apart even though she was fully v******ted, wearing a mask and had no symptoms. She couldn't wait in the car since there was no cell reception in the parking garage and we were in the midst of a "atmospheric river" rain and wind event. so since no one could wait inside the hospital they all crowded together under a protected area by the entry with no where to sit, no room to social distant and no screening for symptoms. But the hospital was doing there part following our governor's guidelines showing how much he cared by keeping people safe by putting in force a bunch of i***tic mandates that are unnecessary and non productive
of course we knew that from the very beginning whe... (show quote)


If non v******ted people hadn’t overwhelmed the medical industry globally then the non-productive statement might have a little tiny bit of t***h to it. But that hasn’t been the case. But then again all the people saying it should of never been political should really catch on and not make statements based on political opinions.

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Oct 29, 2021 15:30:26   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Politicized is one of the biggest problems with the whole thing.

I believe in science and education. That’s the reason I’m v******ted and utilize masks when I should. I have not done either thing as a political statement.

I would have to argue that many of the anti folks are completely doing what they do for political reasons.

Many have become sick or lost relatives and it changed their attitudes when reality set in.

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Oct 29, 2021 15:36:47   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
Jeremy wrote:
Politicized is one of the biggest problems with the whole thing.

I believe in science and education. That’s the reason I’m v******ted and utilize masks when I should. I have not done either thing as a political statement.

I would have to argue that many of the anti folks are completely doing what they do for political reasons.

Many have become sick or lost relatives and it changed their attitudes when reality set in.


85% of people hospitalized in TN with C***d, haven't been v******ted. I don't know how many of those didn't wear masks but if they don't want to get the v*****e, I doubt they would wear masks.

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Oct 29, 2021 16:46:52   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
DC wrote:
of course we knew that from the very beginning when we were told wearing masks would not be beneficial since they were not fine enough to keep out v***ses but then it became political and t***h did not matter it was a political game of do something anything doesn't matter if it really solved the problem what mattered was you could blame the other guy for not doing it and show how much you cared by doing it even if it had no meaningful effect. Sadly we are still locked into this political game. I just had an outpatient surgery where my wife had to be onsite incase they needed to get in contact with her but due to "c***d restrictions" she was not allowed to wait in side the hospital in a waiting room where all the chairs were now 6' apart even though she was fully v******ted, wearing a mask and had no symptoms. She couldn't wait in the car since there was no cell reception in the parking garage and we were in the midst of a "atmospheric river" rain and wind event. so since no one could wait inside the hospital they all crowded together under a protected area by the entry with no where to sit, no room to social distant and no screening for symptoms. But the hospital was doing there part following our governor's guidelines showing how much he cared by keeping people safe by putting in force a bunch of i***tic mandates that are unnecessary and non productive
of course we knew that from the very beginning whe... (show quote)


Not our beloved “Inslee”…😜🤣😂🐟on

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Oct 29, 2021 18:34:56   #
Randyhartford Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
85% of people hospitalized in TN with C***d, haven't been v******ted. I don't know how many of those didn't wear masks but if they don't want to get the v*****e, I doubt they would wear masks.


Exactly...

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Oct 29, 2021 18:40:52   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Randyhartford wrote:
Exactly...


It was a warning from very early that it would happen now it has more than once. What I’m hearing is many areas are really hoping that herd immunity is close or has been achieved.

The silly thing to me is it’s pretty much word for word what scientists predicted.

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Oct 29, 2021 18:41:45   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
85% of people hospitalized in TN with C***d, haven't been v******ted. I don't know how many of those didn't wear masks but if they don't want to get the v*****e, I doubt they would wear masks.


Nail on head. Exactly. When someone says there is no proof I gotta figure they will never understand.

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Oct 29, 2021 18:47:03   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
Surgical masks were invented in the early 1900s. They were used regularly starting in the 1960s. If my math is correct, that would be 60+ years. Anyone who has been in a hospital for surgery and sometimes other reasons, has seen doctors and nurses with masks on.

Here's my question, if they don't protect the person wearing them or the patient from anything at all, why would they be wearing them for over 60 years?
Wouldn't some medical professional say, "this serves no purpose to anyone?"

Just askin.
Surgical masks were invented in the early 1900s. T... (show quote)


From what I was told, after asking the same question was, doctors and nurses have always worm masks that have a head band. Sounds like, as mentioned on KN95, it's an ear loop mask and ear loop masks are not and have never been designed to protect against disease or v***ses. I've tried to ask people if they know that and most just call me an i***t with no common sense and tell
me I need to stop being selfish and think of others🤷🏼‍♂️

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Oct 29, 2021 18:51:47   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
85% of people hospitalized in TN with C***d, haven't been v******ted. I don't know how many of those didn't wear masks but if they don't want to get the v*****e, I doubt they would wear masks.

Strange how things are so much different in different places. Here in Idaho 90% of the c***d cases, which isn't many, are folks who HAVE been v******ted. Ya just never know. There's sure a lot of people dying after being v******ted though. I only know 4 personally but I'm but one drop in an ocean of people. I didn't get that information from the news either. Straight from our medical professionals here. The news and media are vastly misleading at best.
I'm not an anti-vaxer. I just don't trust this particular v*****e.

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Oct 29, 2021 18:57:50   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Big A wrote:
Wonderful ! If that's the
case, then why bother ?

Those of us that KNEW that don't.

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