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Aug 17, 2021 10:54:28   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Any tips would be much appreciated. I am catching some fair channels and blues using worms and small gizzard shad fresh caught in my area, however I seem to be having a hard time hooking up to the big cats. Not sure if it’s my setup or just a location issue. I’m using a Santee cooper rig 2” float 7/0 circle hook and 3 oz sinker. I typically cut the tails off the shad and use 3 to 4 at a time. What am I doing wrong…lol

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Aug 17, 2021 11:04:28   #
Dogand1 Loc: Meadow Vista, Ca
 
Chicken liver or Cow kidney ??

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Aug 17, 2021 11:07:31   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Dogand1 wrote:
Chicken liver or Cow kidney ??


I have used chicken liver in the past to no avail treble hooks keep it on fairly well but it tends to fall apart pretty quickly. I also tend to get more gut hooks, but I have never tried cow lmao!

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Aug 17, 2021 11:16:01   #
Whitey Loc: Southeast ohio
 
Big bluegill for big flathead

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Aug 17, 2021 11:18:37   #
Dogand1 Loc: Meadow Vista, Ca
 
Wind threat around the liver

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Aug 17, 2021 11:19:36   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Whitey wrote:
Big bluegill for big flathead


Hooked through the back or the lips and cut or live?

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Aug 17, 2021 12:04:44   #
Whitey Loc: Southeast ohio
 
Live an I go through the mouth

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Aug 17, 2021 12:06:35   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Any particular spots? Near shore deep channel I am on the bank by the way haha just moved here from Washington had to leave the boat unfortunately:(

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Aug 17, 2021 12:10:12   #
Whitey Loc: Southeast ohio
 
Deep hole if you can find one nighttime fishing is best for big cats in my opinion

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Aug 17, 2021 12:13:37   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Make sure that's legal in Kansas - it's not in California. We can't use any fish for bait that is considered a "game" fish, and that includes bluegills. If it is legal, a live bluegill is one of the best baits you can use for big cats. Chicken livers. Cut you a big patch from a pair of panty hose, wrap the livers in that and then wrap that up with magic thread. Now it won't fall apart on you and the cats don't mind at all.
If you can find fresh mackerel, cut up chunks of that. It's bloody and oily and pretty tough stuff, stays on the hook very well, and the kitties love it. If you have an oriental market you can probably find it there.
Stick with that float, keep your bait near but off the bottom.
Get you some 80 or 100 pound test Tufline Dacron fishing line and use that for leader. It's very soft and absorbs the flavor of your bait.

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Aug 17, 2021 12:13:51   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
I agree with you on that one I have definitely seen more action at night. I have the 5 to 10lb range pretty dialed but I’m after that river monster!

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Aug 17, 2021 12:16:39   #
Whitey Loc: Southeast ohio
 
Moresand wrote:
I agree with you on that one I have definitely seen more action at night. I have the 5 to 10lb range pretty dialed but I’m after that river monster!


Good luck man an I never thought but spirit is right you need to check your local laws and make sure you can use Game fish as bait

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Aug 17, 2021 12:21:49   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Make sure that's legal in Kansas - it's not in California. We can't use any fish for bait that is considered a "game" fish, and that includes bluegills. If it is legal, a live bluegill is one of the best baits you can use for big cats. Chicken livers. Cut you a big patch from a pair of panty hose, wrap the livers in that and then wrap that up with magic thread. Now it won't fall apart on you and the cats don't mind at all.
If you can find fresh mackerel, cut up chunks of that. It's bloody and oily and pretty tough stuff, stays on the hook very well, and the kitties love it. If you have an oriental market you can probably find it there.
Stick with that float, keep your bait near but off the bottom.
Get you some 80 or 100 pound test Tufline Dacron fishing line and use that for leader. It's very soft and absorbs the flavor of your bait.
Make sure that's legal in Kansas - it's not in Cal... (show quote)


I will definitely swing by the market and see if I can find some. I’ve used the pantyhoe trick before but I did it to catch big gar never thought about it for catfish. I will double check the regs here but I believe it is legal you just have to catch the fish by hook no cast netting them. I’m running a medium heavy mad cat with the abu 7000c3. Went with 50lb mono. Maybe I need to up my game! Lol :)

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Aug 17, 2021 12:23:02   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Whitey wrote:
Good luck man an I never thought but spirit is right you need to check your local laws and make sure you can use Game fish as bait


Thank you I am double checking it now but I believe it’s fine as long as you catch them by hook and not in the cast net.

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Aug 17, 2021 12:24:23   #
Moresand Loc: Manhatten Kansas
 
Just checked the book it is good as long as they are caught hook and line! Sweet!!!

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