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Jul 31, 2021 19:53:06   #
fishyaker Loc: NW Michigan (Lower Peninsula)
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3616B3?pf_rd_r=19NC7FP14E0SYZH0XTB1&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=a9acd2a7-cd84-40ca-8bcd-ae133f9b3aaf&pd_rd_w=dsGZO&pd_rd_wg=Z9NK4&ref_=pd_gw_unk

Pretty sure it's a 2 piece. Not a lot of useful information in that add. But now I looked again, I see it's only 31.99 - so you're right I should probably just buy the damn thing and see what I get. Only caveat is that child/slave labor thing. Wouldn't want my money to go to supporting something like that. Like the wicked witch said. Oh what a world, what a world.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3616B3?pf_rd... (show quote)


That is a nice looking rod for the money! Probably would not be a bad investment if it puts something unique within your existing line up....

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Jul 31, 2021 20:05:00   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Well it might. The last rod I bought, over a year ago, was a ultralight casting rod, made in Japan, Major Craft, that I paid way too much for probably, but it is a truly sweet thing and allows me to throw little bitty kastmasters and such for about a country mile. This rod might be a good "substitute" for that one, it looks like from the add that it probably has a very slow action, and the MC is an extra fast. So that might be interesting. I may have to check it out and lay out some ducats.

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Jul 31, 2021 20:05:08   #
Sinker Rig Loc: Tampa area
 
fishyaker wrote:
Good question! Back in the days when I was acquiring many of their rods (St. Croix) for various applications (25 years ago ish), I recall their advertisements saying "fully made in USA". That made a big impression on me. Now don't take this as gospel, but I believe that over the years they may have undergone some changes on this front.

I am now convicted to do a little homework/research and dig deeper! It is indeed hard to find products nowadays that are made of 100% USA components as well as labor for assembly.
Good question! Back in the days when I was acquiri... (show quote)

Probably made in Shenzhen, China, a huge manufactoring region

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Jul 31, 2021 20:08:49   #
FinFisherman Loc: Born in Ohio - 40 yrs Florida- Clearwater,Fl
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I have quite a little small collection of rods and reels, and almost none of it is what I would call junk. I have found through the years that, as I said originally, you generally get what you pay for when it comes to fishing equipment. I buy Shimano reels and St Croix rods almost exclusively. I have bought some brands - good brands - of reels that lasted me maybe a year and something went south on them. On the other hand, I have Shimano reels that I bought over twenty years ago that perform today as well as they did coming out of the box. And they are not top of the line reels. Not cheap by any means, but I don't own a Stella either.
I wonder is there a way to check on the production lines of these foreign companies? So as to avoid supporting the kinds of things that I was talking about earlier.
I have quite a little small collection of rods and... (show quote)

Spirit for what it's worth I've bought several and the last one I got was a combo colapseable with reel. I've been satisfied. One I bought in 2019 had 2 inserts in the line guides came loose but a drop of superglue fixed that but I use them in salt water and don't spend time cleaning them just throw them in the back of my SUV till the next time fishing. Everything we buy comes from China even my GE window shaker came from China. Till we get more manufacturing done in the states we're stuck!

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Jul 31, 2021 20:20:02   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Good point Fin. I know St Croix used to be 100% made in US. Now it's just the high end stuff that's made in Wisconsin (?). They have a manufacturing plant in Mexico that produces the less costly lines, and I own at least one of those - a Triumph medium light that I purchased about 20 years ago and is still catching fish. The rod is, not necessarily me holding it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. I don't think any of the St Croix lines is made in China or any other Asian country.

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Jul 31, 2021 20:58:35   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Sinker Rig wrote:
Are St. Croix rod blanks made in the US, or China?


I know who would know. Let's ask flyguy. He's know a bunch about rod building and blanks.

And goodnight Mr. Egghead, where EVER you are.

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Jul 31, 2021 21:13:15   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Normally I wouldn't be asking about these, because when it comes to rods I am a St Croix kinda guy and I figure you get what you pay for, and for the money SC's are hard to beat. But. I've seen on Amazon - which is about the only place you can buy one that I know of - they for the most part have some pretty good reviews. I'm wondering if anyone on here has any experience with them? I've got my eye on one, an ultralight, that goes for 51.99. That's a pretty good deal if they're worth a damn.
Normally I wouldn't be asking about these, because... (show quote)


Spirit,I see that brand on Wish all the time. Check there,probably better prices than Amazon.

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Jul 31, 2021 22:16:54   #
DCGravity Loc: Fairfax, VA (by way of Cleveland OH)
 
Sinker Rig wrote:
Are St. Croix rod blanks made in the US, or China?


Got this from the St. Croix site: "St. Croix’s facility in Park Falls, Wisconsin manufactures our Legend, Avid, Mojo and other rod series....Our newest manufacturing plant is a state-of-the-art factory in Fresnillo, Mexico. St. Croix’s vertical manufacturing ensures that every rod is produced start-to-finish right there on the premises, including the award winning Mojo series. Just like in the U.S., there is no outsourcing and everything is made using the most advanced materials, with the same high-tech machinery."
So a subset of their products are made in Mexico, but the statements "produced start-to-finish" and "there is no outsourcing" implies the blanks are domestically produced, at least in North America?

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Jul 31, 2021 22:21:46   #
Sinker Rig Loc: Tampa area
 
DCGravity wrote:
Got this from the St. Croix site: "St. Croix’s facility in Park Falls, Wisconsin manufactures our Legend, Avid, Mojo and other rod series....Our newest manufacturing plant is a state-of-the-art factory in Fresnillo, Mexico. St. Croix’s vertical manufacturing ensures that every rod is produced start-to-finish right there on the premises, including the award winning Mojo series. Just like in the U.S., there is no outsourcing and everything is made using the most advanced materials, with the same high-tech machinery."
So a subset of their products are made in Mexico, but the statements "produced start-to-finish" and "there is no outsourcing" implies the blanks are domestically produced, at least in North America?
Got this from the St. Croix site: "St. Croix’... (show quote)


So what's made in Mexico

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Aug 1, 2021 00:01:51   #
Sinker Rig Loc: Tampa area
 
Don't be deceived by that Made In America claim, it's just a marketing tool. Assembled in America with foreign parts is more accurate. Fine with me, if all those components were made here a good rod would cost $1000 or more

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Aug 1, 2021 00:03:16   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
It's gettin there!

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Aug 1, 2021 09:40:24   #
Whitereb Loc: Lake Guntersville Alabama
 
I have several of their reels they are factory bought no middle man. My reels look just like shimano. When they manufacture some rods for someone they run extras without the name brand on them. My reels are really smooth action 14ball bearing no repair for second season so far. Good luck

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Aug 1, 2021 12:33:34   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Whitereb wrote:
I have several of their reels they are factory bought no middle man. My reels look just like shimano. When they manufacture some rods for someone they run extras without the name brand on them. My reels are really smooth action 14ball bearing no repair for second season so far. Good luck


Good to know. Thanks.

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Aug 1, 2021 12:49:45   #
Jeffchow88 Loc: San Francisco
 
Nice, but I need to “feel” a rod before I buy. Is it too stiff? Is it too soft? Fast tip? Slow tip? Taper? Many questions.

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Aug 1, 2021 13:18:57   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Jeffchow88 wrote:
Nice, but I need to “feel” a rod before I buy. Is it too stiff? Is it too soft? Fast tip? Slow tip? Taper? Many questions.


I hear ya Jeff, especially if I'm gonna plunk down some serious money. But for 31 bucks? I think I'm gonna take the chance, see what I get. Hey, I got twin granddaughters that like to fish. Well one of em does anyway. She's in love with my Daiwa Goldcast. That thing will probably fit right on that casting rod.

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