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Jan 16, 2021 20:39:02   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
You never stop. You said I get paid by all the US taxpayers. That is not true. I never said that you did. I said you can research how people get paid disability. There is many ways. I do not get paid by US taxpayers. Did I say I was on Social Security Disability? Now is this your evening entertainment? That is a bully mentality BTW. It really is. I explained also that my Retirement is money that was put somewhere in leu of paying me. Therefore it is not taxpayers either. So if you research how people are paid disability you may learn something. You don't constantly have to assume your paying someone with your neutral way of thinking. I would figure someone that are neutral would never ask or claim to know any of this being as they were truly neutral they wouldn't think...care or comment or torment anyone about anything EVER in their NEUTRAL way of thinking.
You never stop. You said I get paid by all the US... (show quote)


I’ll help you get over the whole “NEUTRAL” thing. I’m not “NEUTRAL” any more. Get over it already. Get it straight man! I didn’t say all US tax payers I said “us tax payers” that’s just you putting words in my mouth again. You’re good at that.
Is it a disability from your state job? Simple question.
Did you earn interest on the money you had the state put away for you “in leu” of paying you? Simple yes or no again.
I don’t “assume” anything. I know how PERS works and I know who pays state disabilities. And they don’t have to be a “social security disability” to be tax funded. Maybe some “research” would be a good thing for you to do.

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Jan 16, 2021 20:57:45   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Catfish h****r wrote:
I’ll help you get over the whole “NEUTRAL” thing. I’m not “NEUTRAL” any more. Get over it already. Get it straight man! I didn’t say all US tax payers I said “us tax payers” that’s just you putting words in my mouth again. You’re good at that.
Is it a disability from your state job? Simple question.
Did you earn interest on the money you had the state put away for you “in leu” of paying you? Simple yes or no again.
I don’t “assucan googleme” anything. I know how PERS works and I know who pays state disabilities. And they don’t have to be a “social security disability” to be tax funded. Maybe some “research” would be a good thing for you to do.
I’ll help you get over the whole “NEUTRAL” thing. ... (show quote)


I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.

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Jan 16, 2021 21:18:07   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


Your gonna have to practice your casting technique. You ain’t even close yet.

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Jan 16, 2021 21:24:47   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


Last I checked you get on here voluntarily🤷‍♂️. Why can’t you answer simple questions. 🤔

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Jan 16, 2021 21:31:45   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


I know. 2 other guys on here think like you do.

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Jan 16, 2021 21:44:16   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


Yeah. Being a pathology specialist for 20 years rubbed off on me🤪. Good one. I have sore feet so if I get that fixed will I be as smart as you?😂😂

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Jan 16, 2021 21:46:30   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


So you DIDN’T work for the state of Oregon now? You’re NOT getting a PERS check now and your disability is not from your job with the state of Oregon? 🤔interesting. Earlier today it was. How does that work?

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Jan 16, 2021 23:03:55   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Catfish h****r wrote:
So you DIDN’T work for the state of Oregon now? You’re NOT getting a PERS check now and your disability is not from your job with the state of Oregon? 🤔interesting. Earlier today it was. How does that work?


You still don't get it dude. Who cares where I worked. I don't lie. It doesn't matter where anyone works. You would really find out if you researched but that wouldn't give you the thrill you obviously do by harassing someone. Your still inaccurate when you say I am paid by tax payers. You could have the same thing I do but you won't spend your effort learning what it is instead of playing games. Like I said before the statement about morning entertainment is only what a bully would think or say. Don't worry none of your buddies or you paid me or will ever pay me. The place I worked was fee based (not tax based). It always was. That is also NOT who pays me currently. It is NOT PERS. If and when I ever get any PERS it is NOT TAX money either for the reason I just said. Taxes do not pay the wages of the Agency I worked for for 25 years. The money I receive is not from any government or taxes. You really could read up on it. Are you so bored the only thing you have to do is torment Fishing Stage Members?

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Jan 16, 2021 23:57:06   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
You still don't get it dude. Who cares where I worked. I don't lie. It doesn't matter where anyone works. You would really find out if you researched but that wouldn't give you the thrill you obviously do by harassing someone. Your still inaccurate when you say I am paid by tax payers. You could have the same thing I do but you won't spend your effort learning what it is instead of playing games. Like I said before the statement about morning entertainment is only what a bully would think or say. Don't worry none of your buddies or you paid me or will ever pay me. The place I worked was fee based (not tax based). It always was. That is also NOT who pays me currently. It is NOT PERS. If and when I ever get any PERS it is NOT TAX money either for the reason I just said. Taxes do not pay the wages of the Agency I worked for for 25 years. The money I receive is not from any government or taxes. You really could read up on it. Are you so bored the only thing you have to do is torment Fishing Stage Members?
You still don't get it dude. Who cares where I wo... (show quote)


You just said your income is PERS. Seriously? You don’t remember just telling us all that? Good grief. Public employee retirement system is PERS. All PERS recipients are employees of federal, state or local government. All of which are tax funded. Your telling all of us you are the only one in the entire country who has worked for one of theses agencies and is not getting a tax funded retirement? Any disability granted by one of these agencies is tax funded. First you worked for the state of Oregon for 20 years and now you say you worked for a different company than the state of Oregon for “25” years and your PERS retirement is not public employee retirement system. What do the letters PERS stand for with your retirement then? I’ve been warned about you but you are right. It’s entertainment for me. 😆😆. It baffles me to run into someone like you that says things and contradicts the very things you say in the sentence. You’re unique dude. And quite entertaining to say the least. To avoid “torment” refrain from reading. Pretty simple. See if you can do it. Don’t respond. We all know you can’t resist but it’s in your best interest to just get a life and move on. We’re happy to pay for it😉. I’m trying to do you a favor here. Turn off your computer and get out for some fresh air.

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Jan 17, 2021 11:58:05   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


Just so you understand. “All U.S. tax payers don’t pay taxes on a state funded disability. Local or state disabilities are paid by “us” tax payers in the local you’re collecting from. Therefore “ALL U.S.” and the local “us” are NOT exactly the same. I’m shocked, with your, self proclaimed, high intellect, you weren’t aware of that. When I lived in Oregon, and still operate a business there, I DO, in fact, pay for your disability AND the portion of your PERS check outside of the 6% you had them hold back for you. I wasn’t born yesterday dude! Those accounts you donate to while working for the state draw interest and are matched by the state. If they didn’t only a fool would participate. Anything above the, measly, 6% you apply is tax funded. Your research will explain that to you. YOU said you worked for the state of Oregon I didn’t. YOU said you’re collecting a disability I didn’t. Was that not true? I’m just going by what you’ve told us in the past. 🤷‍♂️

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Jan 17, 2021 14:40:45   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Jeremy wrote:
I don't have any questions. You do. You can research what your questions are. There are more than your assumptions on how people earn disability. Your the guy that claimed to be neutral. That is why i said if your neutral than so am I. You have a double standard. You can google or go to a library to find answers to all your non neutral now (all the sudden) questioning. You really act like you know everything ( I am not the only one here that think that ). You think there is only one place disability is from and your very wrong. You have NOT paid me anything EVER and never EVER will GET over IT. You keep going back to your same bogus nonneutral thought that all disability is from US taxpayers now its us taxpayers. So unless you live in a foreign country US taxpayers and us taxpayers are the exact same thing. Did your job you do wear off on to you or something? You told me what you do and it seems it must of worn off a bit. Maybe you need treatment for same problem. You will never go research what your hard head won't accept. I don't and never got paid by taxpayers no matter what you and your non neutral buddies constantly whine about. If you spent half the effort you do on harassing people .......


learning maybe you would really get closer to knowing it all.
I don't have any questions. You do. You can rese... (show quote)


I did my research as you required. If what you’ve told us all is true (questionable) then you are, in fact getting paid by the state of Oregon, through Oregon taxes for your disability AND your PERS retirement. You invested a small percentage of your pay check while working and it accrued interest and is being matched by the state of Oregon. The interest and state-matched funds are all collected taxes from Oregon tax payers. I guess that means I DO pay you and will continue to do so as long as I pay taxes in Oregon. Glad to help. I don’t get a penny from any disabilities or tax funded retirement. You are getting, anywhere from $50.00 to $1200.00 a week depending on your claim for disability. It’s in the Oregon law for disability. You can find it as easily as I did. Now am I smarter? You get your full donation back as well as tax funded interest. Same with PERS. Depending on which tier you fall under you could, very well, be getting more retired than you did working. Depends on when your starting date was. If your started prior to 1996 you’re tier one. That means you get more retired than you did working. I have a client collecting a PERS check that’s $1800.00/ month more than she made working. Plus she gets free medical for life. I’ll bet you hopped on that wagon as well. Right? Again, glad to help. There’s a reason some folks like Oregon and want to stay. They’re getting a free ride on the gravy train. I might have stayed as well had I done what you did but I just couldn’t feel good about myself when I looked around at all the people struggling there knowing they were paying for my fishing trips and everything else I had like you do. Good on ya👍. I was raised different and proud to be paying my own way (and yours) enjoy. Glad the rest of us could help.

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Jan 30, 2021 12:48:00   #
Shutupandfish Loc: Transplanted roots back to Wyoming
 
Jeremy wrote:
Yeah you should use Smelt. Hope the impeachment happens. It will increase odds of catching them.

They are reliant on healthy Environment. So its important. I am a Sturgeon Surgeon. I have caught a lot of them. I have eaten a lot of them. I thought of getting a Tattoo on my lower leg ( back of it ) to make it look like a sturgeon.


I don’t care bout all of it but i like two sand shrimp for keeper sturgeon and a whole 1 or 2lb shad for a little fun with a ten footer in front of Multnoma falls.

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