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is there pee in your swimmin pool?
Jan 7, 2021 12:34:16   #
badbobby Loc: Humble Texas
 
efore you take a dip, know this: There is definitely pee in the swimming pool. But, it's probably not that much.
About 1 in 5 people have admitted to peeing in a swimming pool at least once, according to a 2012 survey. And if you're asking Olympic swimmers, well, that rate is much higher: nearly 100 percent, said Carly Geehr, a former member of the U.S. national swim team.



The American Chemical Society (ACS) estimates that there are somewhere between 30 milliliters and 80 mL (1 to 3 ounces) of pee per person in a pool. And one study from 1997 estimated an amount in the middle: an average of 70 mL (2.4 ounces) of pee per person.

So even if you take the upper estimate of those findings, 80 mL of pee per person, you'd still need more than 12 people in a pool to get a liter (0.3 gallons) of pee. An Olympic-sized pool, on the other hand, has about 2.5 million liters (660,430 gallons) of water. [How Much of the Ocean Is Whale Pee (and Worse?)]

But these numbers are only estimates. Exactly how much pee is floating around in a given pool is a little harder to pinpoint.

The problem is that scientists still don't have a great way to measure urine levels in pools. (This means that, yes, the urban legend about a chemical in pools that will turn your pee purple, highlighting your deed for all to see, is just that: an urban legend.)

Pee is made of many chemicals, including water, salts, proteins and waste products. In a 2013 study, scientists estimated that urine contains at least 3,000 different chemicals.

And these compounds aren't necessarily unique to urine.

Urine contains a lot random organic compounds that look like a lot of other random organic compounds, said William Carroll, an adjunct professor of chemistry at Indiana University.

And when these compounds come into contact with a disinfectant — for example, chlorine — the disinfectant "tears them apart," Carroll told Live Science. That means that the only things left in pool water from the urine are the shards of the original molecules, and there's no way of knowing if these fragments came from urine or any other organic material, he said.

A sweet solution?
In one study, published in March 2017, researchers from Canada described a possible way to measure the pee in pool water, a method that involves sidestepping those chemical reactions. The researchers targeted a compound in urine that doesn't react with other chemicals in pee, nor with chlorinated pool water: an artificial sweetener called acesulfame potassium.

In the study, published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology Letters, researchers measured the concentration of acesulfame potassium in 22 swimming pools and eight hot tubs, along with concentrations in city tap water, in two Canadian cities,.

The scientists found that the concentrations ranged from 30 nanograms per liter up to 7,110 ng/L, a variation that could be explained by factors such as how the pool water was filtered and how many people were swimming (and potentially peeing) in the pool. On average, the concentration of this artificial sweetener in pee is 4,000 nanograms per milliliter of water, the study said.

Using acesulfame potassium concentrations from the 22 pools and eight hot tubs a guide, the researchers then collected 15 samples from two swimming pools over a three-week period. They estimated that a 220,000-gallon pool (830,000 L, or one-third the size of an Olympic pool) contained about 20 gallons (75 L) of pee, and a 110,000-gallon (420,000 L) pool contained about 8 gallons (30 L) of pee.

And yes, about 20 gallons of pee sounds gross — especially if you picture it as 20 milk jugs lined up in a row. But in a 220,000-gallon pool, that's only 0.01 percent of the total liquid in the pool — in other words, a drop in the bucket.

Need more proof that there's pee in the pool? Next time you swim, take a whiff of the water. That classic pool smell isn't actually the scent of chlorine, but instead a compound called trichloramine. It forms when a chemical called urea, which is found in pee and sweat, reacts with chlorine in the water, the ACS says.

Originally published on Live Science.
BTW
I only swim in lakes
with the fish pee

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Jan 7, 2021 12:50:52   #
PapaJ Loc: South of Greenville, TX. Near Lake Tawakoni
 
I got kicked out of a country club once for peeing in the pool. I should have been more discreet...I was standing on the diving board while peeing.

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Jan 7, 2021 13:18:36   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I think I might have been there the day you did that. I remember the applause.

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Jan 7, 2021 13:21:01   #
PapaJ Loc: South of Greenville, TX. Near Lake Tawakoni
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I think I might have been there the day you did that. I remember the applause.



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Jan 7, 2021 14:43:44   #
badbobby Loc: Humble Texas
 
PapaJ wrote:
I got kicked out of a country club once for peeing in the pool. I should have been more discreet...I was standing on the diving board while peeing.


that will usually attract the local authorities Papa
and just so you know
ol Spirit will clap for anything

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Jan 7, 2021 15:17:15   #
Ronniejw Loc: West Point MS
 
badbobby wrote:
efore you take a dip, know this: There is definitely pee in the swimming pool. But, it's probably not that much.
About 1 in 5 people have admitted to peeing in a swimming pool at least once, according to a 2012 survey. And if you're asking Olympic swimmers, well, that rate is much higher: nearly 100 percent, said Carly Geehr, a former member of the U.S. national swim team.



The American Chemical Society (ACS) estimates that there are somewhere between 30 milliliters and 80 mL (1 to 3 ounces) of pee per person in a pool. And one study from 1997 estimated an amount in the middle: an average of 70 mL (2.4 ounces) of pee per person.

So even if you take the upper estimate of those findings, 80 mL of pee per person, you'd still need more than 12 people in a pool to get a liter (0.3 gallons) of pee. An Olympic-sized pool, on the other hand, has about 2.5 million liters (660,430 gallons) of water. [How Much of the Ocean Is Whale Pee (and Worse?)]

But these numbers are only estimates. Exactly how much pee is floating around in a given pool is a little harder to pinpoint.

The problem is that scientists still don't have a great way to measure urine levels in pools. (This means that, yes, the urban legend about a chemical in pools that will turn your pee purple, highlighting your deed for all to see, is just that: an urban legend.)

Pee is made of many chemicals, including water, salts, proteins and waste products. In a 2013 study, scientists estimated that urine contains at least 3,000 different chemicals.

And these compounds aren't necessarily unique to urine.

Urine contains a lot random organic compounds that look like a lot of other random organic compounds, said William Carroll, an adjunct professor of chemistry at Indiana University.

And when these compounds come into contact with a disinfectant — for example, chlorine — the disinfectant "tears them apart," Carroll told Live Science. That means that the only things left in pool water from the urine are the shards of the original molecules, and there's no way of knowing if these fragments came from urine or any other organic material, he said.

A sweet solution?
In one study, published in March 2017, researchers from Canada described a possible way to measure the pee in pool water, a method that involves sidestepping those chemical reactions. The researchers targeted a compound in urine that doesn't react with other chemicals in pee, nor with chlorinated pool water: an artificial sweetener called acesulfame potassium.

In the study, published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology Letters, researchers measured the concentration of acesulfame potassium in 22 swimming pools and eight hot tubs, along with concentrations in city tap water, in two Canadian cities,.

The scientists found that the concentrations ranged from 30 nanograms per liter up to 7,110 ng/L, a variation that could be explained by factors such as how the pool water was filtered and how many people were swimming (and potentially peeing) in the pool. On average, the concentration of this artificial sweetener in pee is 4,000 nanograms per milliliter of water, the study said.

Using acesulfame potassium concentrations from the 22 pools and eight hot tubs a guide, the researchers then collected 15 samples from two swimming pools over a three-week period. They estimated that a 220,000-gallon pool (830,000 L, or one-third the size of an Olympic pool) contained about 20 gallons (75 L) of pee, and a 110,000-gallon (420,000 L) pool contained about 8 gallons (30 L) of pee.

And yes, about 20 gallons of pee sounds gross — especially if you picture it as 20 milk jugs lined up in a row. But in a 220,000-gallon pool, that's only 0.01 percent of the total liquid in the pool — in other words, a drop in the bucket.

Need more proof that there's pee in the pool? Next time you swim, take a whiff of the water. That classic pool smell isn't actually the scent of chlorine, but instead a compound called trichloramine. It forms when a chemical called urea, which is found in pee and sweat, reacts with chlorine in the water, the ACS says.

Originally published on Live Science.
BTW
I only swim in lakes
with the fish pee
efore you take a dip, know this: There is definite... (show quote)


Ok they make those assumptions but not taking into account what they said about urea. Pools are used more in warm weather, I doubt people shower or wash before going in so if they are sweaty the water in the pool gets a dose of what's on their body.

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Jan 7, 2021 15:33:23   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I only joined in the applause after I realized what I was witnessing.

I swim in my own pool, I know who's been in it so I know who's pee it is. And I know how often I chlorinate. Haven't been in a large public pool since the Navy, and that wasn't really a "public" pool, just a bunch of nasty sailors. Now that pool smelled very strongly of chlorine and we were required to shower before going in. So you're sayin? Why does that not surprise me?

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Jan 8, 2021 13:25:00   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I think I might have been there the day you did that. I remember the applause.


I think I recall a lot of laughter 😜😂🤣🐟on

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Jan 8, 2021 17:31:09   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I wasn't going to go there Dave. If a man is willing to expose and share his shortcomings .................

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Jan 8, 2021 18:33:33   #
PapaJ Loc: South of Greenville, TX. Near Lake Tawakoni
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I wasn't going to go there Dave. If a man is willing to expose and share his shortcomings .................



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Jan 8, 2021 18:33:53   #
PapaJ Loc: South of Greenville, TX. Near Lake Tawakoni
 
DozerDave wrote:
I think I recall a lot of laughter 😜😂🤣🐟on



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