Boat motor
Jul 2, 2020 08:12:28 #
Working on my sisters boat old gas ate the rubber tops off the float needle valve and plugged up the two carburetors. Got the front of the motor and both carburetors removed. Going to the boat shop today for carburetor kits.
Jul 2, 2020 09:14:34 #
Wv mike wrote:
Working on my sisters boat old gas ate the rubber tops off the float needle valve and plugged up the two carburetors. Got the front of the motor and both carburetors removed. Going to the boat shop today for carburetor kits.
No fishing today
Jul 2, 2020 10:58:01 #
You sure are a good Brother Mike. I would figure if the Needle and Seat is malfunctioning and particles of anything other than Gasoline and fuel mixture are in the Float bowl they are plugging the main and idle jets therefore leaning the fuel air mixture and causing misfire or lack of smooth running powerhead on the outboard.
Jul 2, 2020 19:57:53 #
Yeah I'd say a complete rebuild and good cleaning on everything including cleaning the fuel tanks.
Jul 2, 2020 19:59:14 #
Yeah I'd say a complete rebuild and good cleaning on everything including cleaning the fuel tanks.
Jul 2, 2020 20:00:01 #
Jul 2, 2020 20:11:48 #
Rebuilt the carburetors clean out the rest of the fuel system now it’s running great
Jul 2, 2020 20:13:51 #
Wv mike wrote:
Rebuilt the carburetors clean out the rest of the fuel system now it’s running great
Looks like new again. Nice job
Jul 2, 2020 21:16:43 #
Nice job Mike I had to do the same thing last year on my CC boat 115 Yamaha
Jul 3, 2020 07:32:22 #
Wv mike wrote:
Rebuilt the carburetors clean out the rest of the fuel system now it’s running great
Nice lookin job there Mike! Hey, when I have trouble with mine, could I be yer sister too??
🤣😯😛😂😖😁🤪
Jul 3, 2020 08:26:21 #
The float needle had a little rubber tip and the ethanol in the fuel destroyed it
Jul 3, 2020 10:13:01 #
We're so quick to condemn the fuel. Maybe age damaged the parts. Don't be so quick at blaming the fuel. The rubber will be really soft and expanded, if it was ethanol. In which case you would need to replace the fuel lines. A hard film will be on everything it is old gas. Plus the fuel will have a bad smell. Just fix it. Dan
Jul 3, 2020 15:28:11 #
woodNfish
Loc: Laconia, New Hampshire
Wv mike wrote:
Working on my sisters boat old gas ate the rubber tops off the float needle valve and plugged up the two carburetors. Got the front of the motor and both carburetors removed. Going to the boat shop today for carburetor kits.
It's a good thing you know what you are doing. If I did that the engine would never run again.
Jul 3, 2020 19:27:12 #
Used to go to the airport to get ethanol free gas for all the engines other than momma’s car. Can get it most anywhere now but know so many people that had numerous engine problems from it. Worked in the petroleum industry for 30 years so knew first hand not to use ethanol gas. Solved one little issue but created so many others. As Robert would say - just saying!
Jul 3, 2020 22:44:29 #
DonaldRotter80
Loc: St, Cloud, Minnesota
I have had first hand experience with the destructive capabilities of ethanol fuel.First they took the lead out of the gas. I operated a VW repair shop for 30 years. The lead was necessary to lubricate the valves and seats on the engines. I settled on Alamite CD-2 Lead additive as one quart for $20 would treat 320 gallons of gas. Then the ethanol was introduced and would melt number 3 cylinder, the driver's side forward cylinder on the air cooled Beetle engines. Number 3 cylinder cooling air was partially blocked by the oil cooler mounted on top of the engine block. Ethanol in Minnesota is mandatory and when the Volkswagen Rabbit and Dasher models came out the ethanol destroyed carburetor floats and on the high pressure fuel injection systems the ethanol cleaned all the accumulated crud out of the fuel tank, plugged the fuel filters, forced dirt through them and affected the injectors. The local dealer was charging $400 (back in the 80's and 90's) to remove the tank and clean it out, replace the fuel filter and clean or replace the injectors. I found a different and much cheaper method for my customers.
I went fishing with my friend in his boat only once before he died. He told me how great his rig was and we headed for the lake. As usual the landing was on the opposite side of the lake as the best fishing spot and he immediately complained as the boat wallowed and plowed through the water no matter what he did. We did make it, caught some fish and even made it back to the landing. The local marine shop worked on his engine and told him his carburetor looked like it was full of oatmeal. After a thorough cleaning it ran fine again. I took him to the station and explained that he should not be using straight ethanol in his engine. Either alcohol free neat 91 (for off road use ONLY) can be purchased for about 50 - 60 cents a gallon more, or Stabil Marine (GREEN, NOT RED) can be purchased for $20 a quart which also treats 320 gallons of gas. In addition to that, IF the engine being treated is old enough, (like my 1950 Johnson short shaft outboard and 1950 Ford Ferguson tractor) the Lead Substitute is also necessary.
Another friend used his ATV and had no problems. His daughter came over to ride it and upon starting gas and oil blew out the exhaust and he shut it down before she drove away. I happened to be at his repair shop when the man repairing it came in and announced his ATV was done and ready for pickup. I asked him if it was going to work now? He said, "Yes, but if he uses the same fuel he will destroy the float in the carburetor again."
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. As I said I have first hand evidence and have never had any problems with any of my chain saws, weed wacker, ATV, outboard motor, Ferguson tractor or equipment. I just bought a new lawn mower and the directions state it is manufactured to take ethanol with up to 10% alcohol with no additive required. That is what I will follow but now I have to be careful because I read that the % of alcohol is increasing and the warning is that ANY on road vehicle, trucks, cars, etc. from 2000 on back will suffer engine destruction with more than a 10% mixture. I can only believe that any Off Road applications will suffer the same demise if a higher percentage of alcohol is used. Honestly, the ONLY benefit I see is the much decreased incidents of gas line freeze we experienced in Minnesota years ago. The alcohol removed the water from the tanks but at what cost?
I went fishing with my friend in his boat only once before he died. He told me how great his rig was and we headed for the lake. As usual the landing was on the opposite side of the lake as the best fishing spot and he immediately complained as the boat wallowed and plowed through the water no matter what he did. We did make it, caught some fish and even made it back to the landing. The local marine shop worked on his engine and told him his carburetor looked like it was full of oatmeal. After a thorough cleaning it ran fine again. I took him to the station and explained that he should not be using straight ethanol in his engine. Either alcohol free neat 91 (for off road use ONLY) can be purchased for about 50 - 60 cents a gallon more, or Stabil Marine (GREEN, NOT RED) can be purchased for $20 a quart which also treats 320 gallons of gas. In addition to that, IF the engine being treated is old enough, (like my 1950 Johnson short shaft outboard and 1950 Ford Ferguson tractor) the Lead Substitute is also necessary.
Another friend used his ATV and had no problems. His daughter came over to ride it and upon starting gas and oil blew out the exhaust and he shut it down before she drove away. I happened to be at his repair shop when the man repairing it came in and announced his ATV was done and ready for pickup. I asked him if it was going to work now? He said, "Yes, but if he uses the same fuel he will destroy the float in the carburetor again."
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. As I said I have first hand evidence and have never had any problems with any of my chain saws, weed wacker, ATV, outboard motor, Ferguson tractor or equipment. I just bought a new lawn mower and the directions state it is manufactured to take ethanol with up to 10% alcohol with no additive required. That is what I will follow but now I have to be careful because I read that the % of alcohol is increasing and the warning is that ANY on road vehicle, trucks, cars, etc. from 2000 on back will suffer engine destruction with more than a 10% mixture. I can only believe that any Off Road applications will suffer the same demise if a higher percentage of alcohol is used. Honestly, the ONLY benefit I see is the much decreased incidents of gas line freeze we experienced in Minnesota years ago. The alcohol removed the water from the tanks but at what cost?
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