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Apr 20, 2020 13:06:58   #
Mudbugger Loc: North Central Indiana, just north of Kokomo.
 
My first inquiry here.

Does anyone have any experience with the Shimado, rear drag reels, specifically the Sienna 4000RD?

I like the idea of the drear drag, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of them out there. Just wondering if there was a good mechanical/physical reason for that.

Thanks Gang.

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Apr 20, 2020 13:42:14   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Mudbugger wrote:
My first inquiry here.

Does anyone have any experience with the Shimado, rear drag reels, specifically the Sienna 4000RD?

I like the idea of the drear drag, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of them out there. Just wondering if there was a good mechanical/physical reason for that.


Thanks Gang.

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Apr 20, 2020 14:11:19   #
Ron620DVS Loc: Guntersville Alabama
 
Mudbugger wrote:
My first inquiry here.

Does anyone have any experience with the Shimado, rear drag reels, specifically the Sienna 4000RD?

I like the idea of the drear drag, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of them out there. Just wondering if there was a good mechanical/physical reason for that.

Thanks Gang.


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The Shimano Sienna has both Front Drag and Rear Drag versions. They're sized as 500, 1000, 2500 and 4000. Five hundred is suitable for ultralight uses while the 4000 can handle large freshwater and inshore fish. The Sienna is approved for saltwater and rated for use with Mono, Fluorocarbon and PowerPro lines.


Shimano Sienna Specifications;

The Shimano Sienna has both Front Drag and Rear Drag versions. They’re sized as 500, 1000, 2500 and 4000. Five hundred is suitable for ultralight uses while the 4000 can handle large freshwater and inshore fish. The Sienna is approved for saltwater and rated for use with Mono, Fluorocarbon and PowerPro lines.
The FD and RD versions each have pluses and minuses. The Front Drag model has a:

Power Roller;

Weight range between 6.0 and 12.3 ounces
drag power range between four and 13 pounds
retrieve per crank range between 25 and 32 inches

Front drag;

The Rear Drag model has a:
weight range between 8.3 and 13 ounces
drag power range between seven and 15 pounds
retrieve per crank range between 28 and 33 inches
Both the FD and RD version have 3+1 bearings and one roller bearing. The FD has three models while the RD has four.Unsure whether to go with Front Drag or Rear Drag?

"Generally speaking, the Front Drag is smoother than Rear Drag. Plus, Front Drag is more popular, so you’ll have a wider variety of reels to choose from."

On the other hand, Rear Drag reels are easier to adjust while actually fighting with a fish, because you see the reel in the beginning. Also, Rear Drag reels are generally considered to be a better option with low-end reels.

The Sienna is low-priced but we wouldn’t classify it as low-end, so that con doesn’t really apply here. Basically, both the FD and RD Sienna models performed well. The Front Drag Sienna is the more popular seller, but your choice should really come down to personal preference.

See Full Specs;

https://best-spinningreels.com/shimano-sienna-review-2019/


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Apr 20, 2020 14:20:03   #
hogleg Loc: Bakersfield Calif.
 
I've used then for years and love it. Some have a leaver that's called a fighting drag works great for me

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Apr 20, 2020 14:25:31   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Hi ! Regarding the Shimano
Sienna model; the one I owned was the 2500 RD, similar but slightly smaller ! I bought it to replace the two 'Sidestab' model reels I had owned and enjoyed using for years; not the same !
I liked that model because of its
'Quik-fire' trigger feature which
the Sienna didn't have, and I missed it ! I have found a
couple of Shimano models
that I've been considering, but
they never should have diccontinued those Sidestabs; they were a great reel for the
price ! Although I prefer the
rear-drag reels, I like and miss
the trigger feature more; the Shimano Syncopate ($30/$35)
has the trigger, but is a
front-drag model ! The IX-R ($20) has both features, but is a much cheaper reel and the spool
cannot be removed and swapped to change line, which is another feature I like, as you can change line strength simply by switching spools ! The last model that I like (and can barely afford) is the Shimano Spirex ($60); it has all three features (rear-drag/ trigger/
interchageable spools), but is a definite financial upgrade ! It also means that I should upgrade to a slightly better Ugly-Stik rod !
Long story short; not a Sienna
fan, but to each his own !

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Apr 20, 2020 18:17:51   #
Old75 Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
 
I have two Shimano IX 4000R. You can find them from $12.99 and up. They are rear drag and feel indestructible. They have 1000, 2000, and 3000 models also. I don't think you could go wrong with these older technology, spinning reels.

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Apr 20, 2020 18:52:29   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Old75 wrote:
I have two Shimano IX 4000R. You can find them from $12.99 and up. They are rear drag and feel indestructible. They have 1000, 2000, and 3000 models also. I don't think you could go wrong with these older technology, spinning reels.


Problem with th the IX models is that the spools aren't removable/ interchangeable; I have an
IX 2000 ! Preferred the older,
FX models, as those you COULD change spools/line weight very quickly and easily; didn't notice it 'til I got it home and started loading line on it, and I was not happy with it ! It currently serves as a back-up or spare unit in
case of emergency !

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Apr 20, 2020 19:00:15   #
Old75 Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
 
Big A wrote:
Problem with th the IX models is that the spools aren't removable/ interchangeable; I have an
IX 2000 ! Preferred the older,
FX models, as those you COULD change spools/line weight very quickly and easily; didn't notice it 'til I got it home and started loading line on it, and I was not happy with it ! It currently serves as a back-up or spare unit in
case of emergency !


Did you pay more for your 1 FX model than I did for my two IX models 2*$13 = $26 was my cost.

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Apr 20, 2020 19:17:55   #
Mudbugger Loc: North Central Indiana, just north of Kokomo.
 
I have already bought, but not used, a couple of the Sienna 4000RD reels, and I was just wondering what experience others have had with them.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming, I appreciate it.

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Apr 20, 2020 19:50:44   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Old75 wrote:
Did you pay more for your 1 FX model than I did for my two IX models 2*$13 = $26 was my cost.


Don't remember the price, as that was over 20 years ago, but I think it was around $20, give or take a couple of bucks; but I got a lot of use out of it , though ! Used THAT one for a back-up when it started getting tired, right about the time I upgraded to my first 'Sidestab' !

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Apr 21, 2020 06:58:05   #
Dr Chip Loc: Cassville, MO
 
FYI...I have a dozen reels, maybe 15-18, ALL Shimano Spirex. All but one is the 2000 series, 1 is a 2500 with a double paddle handle because as a kid learned on a baitcaster but could not master it as an adult? Also I reverse the handle on the right, cast right handed and fish with my left hand (again learned on a baitcaster) YES I take a lot of grief from my friends but usually catch more fish than they catch...a good friend at the time on the pro fishing tour recommended it and I obviously love it. Once yearly I take 5-6-8 into the local bait shop and he cleans, adjusts, & oils it with a lithium oil, then I have him put 8# Maxima on all of them sooo I always have a backup to exchange if something is not right...DrChip

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Apr 21, 2020 08:02:56   #
Old75 Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
 
These Shimano reels last a lifetime.

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Apr 21, 2020 10:14:27   #
JRK227 Loc: Cedarburg, WI
 
Rear drag is handy, but not as efficient as conventional drag adjustment. That's why the Shimano reels I own sit on a shelf.

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Apr 21, 2020 12:40:35   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
To each his own, my friend ! As
far as Shimano reels go, most swear by them, while a few
swear AT them ; it's all a matter
of preference ! Would that
I could afford so many rigs; probably owned about six,
total, over the past thirty
years ! Some of us have to
'make do' or get by with what
we can afford, but I've always
tried to have spare back-
up spools for quick
changeovers ! Kinda hurt to
lose those two set-ups in that
car accident, though; I really
liked those reels and can't
replace them !

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Apr 21, 2020 13:40:08   #
Jeffchow88 Loc: San Francisco
 
I have a pair of Sidestab 1000. Both have quickfire and fighting rear drags. I originally buy them for trout fishing. I like the idea of having the rear drag and using it as a “free spool” when bait fishing. The only “con” that I have is that it is a bit heavier than the front drag reels.
I’ve since gone to lighter reels for trout, but use my Sidestabs for bass, using the fighting rear drag as it was intended.
Tight lines!

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