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Feb 28, 2020 20:38:46   #
FS Digest
 
The trout regs. for Fla have changed for 2020 so I was reviewing them. There's this language - 'Zero captain and crew bag limit when on a for-hire trip'. Does mean there is no limit for the captain and crew, i.e. they can keep as many as they like, or does it mean that the captain and crew have a limit of zero, i.e. they can keep none?

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by Clodhoppa81

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Feb 28, 2020 20:38:50   #
FS Digest
 
To me, zero limit means you can’t keep anything. No limit would mean keep as many as you like. However, it may be easier to just reach out to your local fish and game warden to confirm.

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by Albany_Steamed_Hams

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Feb 28, 2020 20:38:54   #
FS Digest
 
Meaning they have a bag limit of zero trout they can personally keep while on charter.

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by FLAquaGuy

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Feb 28, 2020 20:39:06   #
FS Digest
 
Quote:
...does it mean that the captain and crew have a limit of zero, i.e. they can keep none?


This. Captain and crew of charter trip can't keep any trout.

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by jswledhed

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Feb 28, 2020 20:39:09   #
FS Digest
 
lol what. why would you think they would let the captain/crew keep anything they want. What would stop them from keeping a ton of fish and then giving them to clients later. It means only paying customers get to keep fish to the limit. Sometimes a charter might say well keep another one for me - as the captain, since rules were going by # of fisherman to # of fish. This says the captain and crew are not fisherman and cannot keep fish

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by walterh3

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Feb 28, 2020 20:39:20   #
FS Digest
 
Quote:
why would you think they would let the captain/crew keep anything they want.


I couldn't figure out why that would be the case; it meant no sense to me, hence the question about the wording.

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by Clodhoppa81

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Feb 28, 2020 20:52:43   #
Critter Loc: Warwick New York
 
FS Digest wrote:
The trout regs. for Fla have changed for 2020 so I was reviewing them. There's this language - 'Zero captain and crew bag limit when on a for-hire trip'. Does mean there is no limit for the captain and crew, i.e. they can keep as many as they like, or does it mean that the captain and crew have a limit of zero, i.e. they can keep none?

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by Clodhoppa81



Im thinking the captain and crew wouldn’t be allowed to keep any fish.

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Feb 28, 2020 21:23:21   #
campbellclan Loc: Levy Co. Florida
 
Some of the laws in Florida are a little strange. When I worked for the Florida Marine Patrol I wrote up a guy operating a boat pulling a skier on a 75 ft. line through a bridge span. The span was 35ft. wide. The law read " It is illegal to pull a skier, aqua-plane or similar device in a manor as to cause the skier, aqua-plane or similar device to strike a fixed object." Bridge span 35ft. ski rope 75ft. That means 150ft. It was determined that it was a after the fact law. The guy had to smack his brains out on the bridge pilings before you could write the operator up. I changed it to reckless operation of a motor boat. All good

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Feb 28, 2020 21:31:59   #
Critter Loc: Warwick New York
 
I always said the police usually don’t catch the smart ones lol.

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Feb 29, 2020 00:12:07   #
Dehy Loc: Jacksonville, Florida
 
FS Digest wrote:
The trout regs. for Fla have changed for 2020 so I was reviewing them. There's this language - 'Zero captain and crew bag limit when on a for-hire trip'. Does mean there is no limit for the captain and crew, i.e. they can keep as many as they like, or does it mean that the captain and crew have a limit of zero, i.e. they can keep none?

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by Clodhoppa81

This is for spotted sea trout. When a boat has paying customers the captain and crew cannot possess any fish.

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Feb 29, 2020 01:16:00   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Do the Florida regs actually call them spotted sea trout? Asking for a friend.

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Feb 29, 2020 09:55:36   #
Flytier Loc: Wilmington Delaware
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Do the Florida regs actually call them spotted sea trout? Asking for a friend.


Yes.

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Feb 29, 2020 14:41:09   #
JimRed Loc: Coastal New Jersey, Belmar area
 
Regional disparities...Trout in my neck of the woods is a fresh water fish with occasional sea run varieties, from genus Salmo, Salvelinus and Oncorhynchus. In our immediate area almost 100% are stocked fish, though some sea run Browns are thought to breed far upriver. We call your Trout Weakfish, and they are seldom caught in the brackish upper reaches of our rivers and bays, never (to my knowledge) in fresh water.

But a rose by any other name...just as tasty!

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Feb 29, 2020 18:01:11   #
hacksaw Loc: Pasadena, Texas
 
FS Digest wrote:
The trout regs. for Fla have changed for 2020 so I was reviewing them. There's this language - 'Zero captain and crew bag limit when on a for-hire trip'. Does mean there is no limit for the captain and crew, i.e. they can keep as many as they like, or does it mean that the captain and crew have a limit of zero, i.e. they can keep none?

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by Clodhoppa81


If it were me, I’d call the fish and wildlife office and get the straight poop on that, but, that’s just me Clod.
Hack 🇺🇸🇨🇱

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Feb 29, 2020 18:11:40   #
badboyattitude Loc: Palm Bay Florida
 
The crew usually get to keep fish when they are for hire but the spotted sea trout are getting replenished so it's a good thing. When it is red snapper season on the east coast of Florida they get to keep one each every trip but the people paying can only keep one also. I don't think they should be able to keep any.

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