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Feb 15, 2020 17:21:09   #
Rich66 Loc: Pleasant hill California
 
I’m going to pismo beach and would like to kill some time fishing off the pier surf perch what bait would sand crabs or maybe shrimp fish the bottom I would guess or any other bait or maybe a lure can you catch crab off the pier any suggestions wouldn’t be appreciated thanks

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Feb 15, 2020 19:14:45   #
Gordon Loc: Charleston South Carolina
 
Rich66 wrote:
I’m going to pismo beach and would like to kill some time fishing off the pier surf perch what bait would sand crabs or maybe shrimp fish the bottom I would guess or any other bait or maybe a lure can you catch crab off the pier any suggestions wouldn’t be appreciated thanks


Confused Rich. Heading said piano beach and post said pismo beach. Not familiar with eather. Where are you located. Maybe I or someone can help
We try hard

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Feb 15, 2020 19:37:34   #
Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego
 
Rich66 wrote:
I’m going to pismo beach and would like to kill some time fishing off the pier surf perch what bait would sand crabs or maybe shrimp fish the bottom I would guess or any other bait or maybe a lure can you catch crab off the pier any suggestions wouldn’t be appreciated thanks


Local bait stores should have blood worms or sand worms. The worms have hooks on their mouths, especially the blood worms you won't see them until they extend them.
This picture is blurry but you get the idea.
Clams are a good bet also



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Feb 15, 2020 20:17:43   #
Rich66 Loc: Pleasant hill California
 
Pismo beach California they just refurbished there pier

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Feb 15, 2020 20:23:35   #
Gordon Loc: Charleston South Carolina
 
Thanks for the location Rich. Hope Larry can help.

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Feb 15, 2020 20:43:16   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
Welcome to the Forum, Rich. I was confused too, but that's not unusual. Please put your location on your profile page.

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Feb 15, 2020 22:29:36   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Surf perch love sand crabs. If you can't get the real ones, Berkley makes artificials that work just as well if not better. Berkley also makes artificial sand worms and they don't bite and are way less expensive than the real ones. Lures? If I was fishing from a pier and not the beach I'd throw a motor oil colored grub on a Caroline rig. Beach? Luckycraft 100 or 110 surf minnow. Anything that eats anything at all will bite that. A little pricey, but oh my. I don't fish Pismo beach, I'm further north, but surf perch are surf perch.

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Feb 16, 2020 07:22:16   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Surf perch love sand crabs. If you can't get the real ones, Berkley makes artificials that work just as well if not better. Berkley also makes artificial sand worms and they don't bite and are way less expensive than the real ones. Lures? If I was fishing from a pier and not the beach I'd throw a motor oil colored grub on a Caroline rig. Beach? Luckycraft 100 or 110 surf minnow. Anything that eats anything at all will bite that. A little pricey, but oh my. I don't fish Pismo beach, I'm further north, but surf perch are surf perch.
Surf perch love sand crabs. If you can't get the ... (show quote)


Spirit, are sand perch and piggy perch the same fish, with a different name? We can't keep piggy perch off of our hook in the Gulf. A big one is the size of a sunfish.

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Feb 16, 2020 12:38:25   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I don't think so. Our surf perch generally run around 2 pounds or so, and they get up to about 5, that would be a big one. If you go online to the California DFW website you can find a lot of information on them. I believe they're pretty much a west coast fish. They are a lot of fun to catch on lite gear and they're pretty tasty.

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Feb 16, 2020 13:20:15   #
Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego
 
flyguy wrote:
Spirit, are sand perch and piggy perch the same fish, with a different name? We can't keep piggy perch off of our hook in the Gulf. A big one is the size of a sunfish.


Morning fly,
Here in Southern California we mostly catch barred surf perch but farther north they also have redtail perch. Gulp sand worms are a good bet, we mostly use the camo color ones, it will say camo on the package. They work very well. Camo seems to be the goto choice down here. Luckily Craft 110 also a good choice, match the color with the bait fish out there.
Here's a couple pictures of the two fish.
There are other types of perch out there but these are the most common ones.



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Feb 16, 2020 13:48:08   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Larry we mostly have the red ones up here and I believe they run just a little bit bigger than the barred. The fun part of using that luckycraft is you never know what might hit it. I use some pretty light gear for the perch, so if a striper or a halibut hits it - hang on, you're gonna get wet.

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Feb 16, 2020 14:08:40   #
Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Larry we mostly have the red ones up here and I believe they run just a little bit bigger than the barred. The fun part of using that luckycraft is you never know what might hit it. I use some pretty light gear for the perch, so if a striper or a halibut hits it - hang on, you're gonna get wet.


Hi Spirit,
I only have caught one red tail. When our kids were younger we would go on camping trips and each of them would take a friend.
We took the RV up to Jedediah Smith State Park one year and stopped at a couple of the state campgrounds along the way heading back home. I can't remember where it was that I caught the redtail.
It's surprising to see a surf perch hit a lucky craft that's about the same size as they are.
One thing good about saltwater fishing is that you can never know what you're going to catch.

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