fishing for smallmouth bass vs largemouth bass. how it is different or the same?
Jan 9, 2020 20:35:48 #
Old75
Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
Since I started back fishing again in 2018 after a layoff of some 40 years, I have finished mainly for largemouth bass, but posts here, BassResource, and Wired2Fish have made me want to catch these fighting toughies. I start from ground zero so please advise me with respect type of bodies of water to fish and types of lures. Let me say “thanks” in advance as I know you will steer me well. BTW, I live in Broken Arrow, OK about 2 mi. from BassPro. (that is in NE Oklahoma).
Jan 9, 2020 23:24:39 #
Miley1
Loc: Northampton county,Pa,Bangor
I like smallmouth in streams with a shad or rooster tail ,large mouth I use mostly rubber worms lt takes a little time to learn just how to present it but it works more for me then anything else.At night in the summer I fish at night for largemouth with surface lures.if in the weeds then a weed less frog or worm in open water jitterbugs.again I’m mentioning the ones that I found that work for me but there is a wide selection of lures.mainly I also found if you want the bigger bass night time is the right time in the summer
Jan 10, 2020 09:28:25 #
Jan 10, 2020 17:05:43 #
Jan 10, 2020 17:17:14 #
Ron620DVS
Loc: Guntersville Alabama
Are there smallmouth bass in Oklahoma?
Oklahoma Distribution: Smallmouth bass occur naturally in many eastern Oklahoma Ozark and Ouachita streams and tributaries. Fishable lake populations exist in Grand, Tenkiller, Murray, Eufaula, Texoma and Broken Bow. ... Black bass is a general term referring to largemouth, spotted and smallmouth bass and their hybrids.
Bass, Smallmouth:
https://www.wildlifedepartment.com/fishing/species/bass-smallmouth
Radios reveal wandering habits of smallmouth bass in Oklahoma:
This habitat and behavior research on smallmouth bass that swim in Oklahoma's Elk River and tributaries is paid for through the Wildlife and Sport Fish Restoration Program, collected through taxes paid by fishing tackle manufacturers on fishing gear, passed on to the angler.
Brewer and Miller conduct the work for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation (ODWC), which expects to use research findings to make informed fishery management decisions.
How they get the work done is nearly as interesting as what they are learning. Brewer and Miller surgically implanted 100 Neosho smallmouth bass with radios, as early as 2015. The fish were caught by electrofishing, anesthetized, and the radios placed inside the body cavity and then stitched up.
The bass were returned to the same streams in which they were caught after they recovered from surgery. A few radioed bass have been lost to otters and to anglers, but through the course of the study, at least 30 bass have remained tagged in each of three streams.
“Their favorite habitats in winter seemed to be deep pools,” said Brewer. “They would hold between rocks in slow water — and sometimes in quite shallow rocky areas — stationary. I'm an angler and naturally curious and snorkeled in January for a closer look.
"Smallmouth bass shoved themselves between rocks, in cavities, and in piles of woody debris — fish of all sizes. Some were wedged sideways in cavities, protected from swifter water. ”
As winter turned to spring, the two researchers found much variation among the many individual fish that carried radios.
“Females were first to move,” Brewer said. “Come April, they were headed upstream to spawning sites. Some moved nearly five miles to find spawning habitat.”
Male smallmouth bass typically build nests over gravel in shallow water and court females to spawn. Males aggressively guard the nests during construction, through hatching and for a short spell as fry hover above the nest and the guarding male before disbursing to nursery habitat.
The researchers noted that bass in their study seemed to concentrate in select areas which may speak to there being limited spawning habitat. As to what happened to the females, post-spawn, Brewer said they didn't travel far, typically staying near the closest deep pools until around September when there seemed to be a downstream movement, particularly by the older and larger bass.
The three streams that harbored the radioed smallmouth bass all lead into Grand Lake O' the Cherokees. Curiously, none of the bass to date have been located in the reservoir — they have all stayed in the streams. Moreover, the bass stayed in the streams in which they were tagged, save for one female that moved seasonally between to streams.
And that speaks to their uniqueness, says ODWC biologist Kurt Kuklinski, who oversees the fisheries research for the agency at its lab in Norman.
“Neosho smallmouth bass are a stream fish,” Kuklinski said. “They have a liking for cool, spring-fed flowing waters. They're native to the eastern third of Oklahoma — and their reliance on Ozark streams makes them different than lake-dwelling smallmouth bass.”
The preliminary results are fascinating, but Kuklinski says the full picture is not yet in view. The two researchers have more work to do and a great amount of data to analyze.
https://oklahoman.com/article/5593472/listening-to-the-radio-radios-reveal-wandering-habits-of-oklahoma-smallmouth-bass-in-oklahoma
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Oklahoma Distribution: Smallmouth bass occur naturally in many eastern Oklahoma Ozark and Ouachita streams and tributaries. Fishable lake populations exist in Grand, Tenkiller, Murray, Eufaula, Texoma and Broken Bow. ... Black bass is a general term referring to largemouth, spotted and smallmouth bass and their hybrids.
Bass, Smallmouth:
https://www.wildlifedepartment.com/fishing/species/bass-smallmouth
Radios reveal wandering habits of smallmouth bass in Oklahoma:
This habitat and behavior research on smallmouth bass that swim in Oklahoma's Elk River and tributaries is paid for through the Wildlife and Sport Fish Restoration Program, collected through taxes paid by fishing tackle manufacturers on fishing gear, passed on to the angler.
Brewer and Miller conduct the work for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation (ODWC), which expects to use research findings to make informed fishery management decisions.
How they get the work done is nearly as interesting as what they are learning. Brewer and Miller surgically implanted 100 Neosho smallmouth bass with radios, as early as 2015. The fish were caught by electrofishing, anesthetized, and the radios placed inside the body cavity and then stitched up.
The bass were returned to the same streams in which they were caught after they recovered from surgery. A few radioed bass have been lost to otters and to anglers, but through the course of the study, at least 30 bass have remained tagged in each of three streams.
“Their favorite habitats in winter seemed to be deep pools,” said Brewer. “They would hold between rocks in slow water — and sometimes in quite shallow rocky areas — stationary. I'm an angler and naturally curious and snorkeled in January for a closer look.
"Smallmouth bass shoved themselves between rocks, in cavities, and in piles of woody debris — fish of all sizes. Some were wedged sideways in cavities, protected from swifter water. ”
As winter turned to spring, the two researchers found much variation among the many individual fish that carried radios.
“Females were first to move,” Brewer said. “Come April, they were headed upstream to spawning sites. Some moved nearly five miles to find spawning habitat.”
Male smallmouth bass typically build nests over gravel in shallow water and court females to spawn. Males aggressively guard the nests during construction, through hatching and for a short spell as fry hover above the nest and the guarding male before disbursing to nursery habitat.
The researchers noted that bass in their study seemed to concentrate in select areas which may speak to there being limited spawning habitat. As to what happened to the females, post-spawn, Brewer said they didn't travel far, typically staying near the closest deep pools until around September when there seemed to be a downstream movement, particularly by the older and larger bass.
The three streams that harbored the radioed smallmouth bass all lead into Grand Lake O' the Cherokees. Curiously, none of the bass to date have been located in the reservoir — they have all stayed in the streams. Moreover, the bass stayed in the streams in which they were tagged, save for one female that moved seasonally between to streams.
And that speaks to their uniqueness, says ODWC biologist Kurt Kuklinski, who oversees the fisheries research for the agency at its lab in Norman.
“Neosho smallmouth bass are a stream fish,” Kuklinski said. “They have a liking for cool, spring-fed flowing waters. They're native to the eastern third of Oklahoma — and their reliance on Ozark streams makes them different than lake-dwelling smallmouth bass.”
The preliminary results are fascinating, but Kuklinski says the full picture is not yet in view. The two researchers have more work to do and a great amount of data to analyze.
https://oklahoman.com/article/5593472/listening-to-the-radio-radios-reveal-wandering-habits-of-oklahoma-smallmouth-bass-in-oklahoma
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Jan 10, 2020 17:22:57 #
Ron620DVS
Loc: Guntersville Alabama
Oklahoma's Top 10 Streams:
1. Mountain Fork River (Upper and Lower): Located in McCurtain County in extreme southeast Oklahoma, the river offer....
5. Baron Fork Creek: Designated an Oklahoma scenic river, this tributary of the Illinois offers good smallmouth and black bass fishing, along with one of the best spring sand bass runs. The best access to the Baron Fork is in Cherokee County.
6. Little River: Located above Pine Creek Lake in a remote area of southeast Oklahoma, Little River is home to plenty of fish species that will pull your drag, including largemouth, spotted and smallmouth bass, crappie, carp, catfish, sunfish and sand bass. The river can be accessed by logging roads within the Honobia Creek Wildlife Management Area.
7. Lee Creek: Considered a fabulous river for floating, it flows into Oklahoma out of the Ozark National Forest as a mountain stream and bends generally south and west near Short, then turns back to the south and east to eventually return into Arkansas.
8: Arkansas River: Flowing from Kaw Lake in north-central Oklahoma to Robert S. Kerr Lake in southeastern Oklahoma, the river feeds several lakes and boasts some very good tailrace fisheries all along the navigational system.
9. Spavinaw Creek: Located in the Ozark Mountains east of Pryor, it's an excellent smallmouth bass stream. Fed by Ozark springs, there is public access to the waters off county roads from Lake Spavinaw to Lake Eucha.
10. Kiamichi River: Flowing from Le Flore County through the Ouachita Mountains and on through Hugo Lake, the river is popular for floating with good fishing for largemouth and spotted bass, white bass, catfish and crappie.
https://oklahoman.com/article/2898275/oklahomas-top-10-streams
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1. Mountain Fork River (Upper and Lower): Located in McCurtain County in extreme southeast Oklahoma, the river offer....
5. Baron Fork Creek: Designated an Oklahoma scenic river, this tributary of the Illinois offers good smallmouth and black bass fishing, along with one of the best spring sand bass runs. The best access to the Baron Fork is in Cherokee County.
6. Little River: Located above Pine Creek Lake in a remote area of southeast Oklahoma, Little River is home to plenty of fish species that will pull your drag, including largemouth, spotted and smallmouth bass, crappie, carp, catfish, sunfish and sand bass. The river can be accessed by logging roads within the Honobia Creek Wildlife Management Area.
7. Lee Creek: Considered a fabulous river for floating, it flows into Oklahoma out of the Ozark National Forest as a mountain stream and bends generally south and west near Short, then turns back to the south and east to eventually return into Arkansas.
8: Arkansas River: Flowing from Kaw Lake in north-central Oklahoma to Robert S. Kerr Lake in southeastern Oklahoma, the river feeds several lakes and boasts some very good tailrace fisheries all along the navigational system.
9. Spavinaw Creek: Located in the Ozark Mountains east of Pryor, it's an excellent smallmouth bass stream. Fed by Ozark springs, there is public access to the waters off county roads from Lake Spavinaw to Lake Eucha.
10. Kiamichi River: Flowing from Le Flore County through the Ouachita Mountains and on through Hugo Lake, the river is popular for floating with good fishing for largemouth and spotted bass, white bass, catfish and crappie.
https://oklahoman.com/article/2898275/oklahomas-top-10-streams
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Jan 10, 2020 17:29:20 #
Ron620DVS
Loc: Guntersville Alabama
Murray is more known as a smallmouth bass lake but historically will produce an occasional giant largemouth bass, said Cliff Sager, fisheries biologist for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation.
https://oklahoman.com/article/5586512/where-big-bass-lurk-broken-bow-lake-and-lake-murray-have-produced-monsters-this-year
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Broken Bow
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/138690-broken-bow/
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https://oklahoman.com/article/5586512/where-big-bass-lurk-broken-bow-lake-and-lake-murray-have-produced-monsters-this-year
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Broken Bow
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/138690-broken-bow/
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Jan 10, 2020 17:34:11 #
Ron620DVS
Loc: Guntersville Alabama
Smallmouth bass fishing is first-rate on this beautiful river above Broken Bow Lake. There are no outfitters on the upper section, so you'll need to bring your own kayak or canoe to paddle here, but you can also use waders. Fish Found: Spotted and largemouth bass. White bass and walleye only in the spring.
https://visitmccurtaincounty.com/best-fishing-southeastern-oklahoma/
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https://visitmccurtaincounty.com/best-fishing-southeastern-oklahoma/
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Jan 10, 2020 17:37:06 #
Ron620DVS
Loc: Guntersville Alabama
8 Fish to Catch in McCurtain County, And Where to Catch Them:
https://visitmccurtaincounty.com/8-fish-catch-mccurtain-county-catch/
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The Fish We Catch
Learn more about the most common fish we catch here at Rudy's Guide Service. Broken Bow Lake's most commonly caught fish are Crappie, Spotted Bass, Smallmouth Bass & Largemouth Bass. Read below to see what you can expect to catch on our guided trips.
https://fishingbrokenbowlake.com/fish-we-catch/
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https://visitmccurtaincounty.com/8-fish-catch-mccurtain-county-catch/
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The Fish We Catch
Learn more about the most common fish we catch here at Rudy's Guide Service. Broken Bow Lake's most commonly caught fish are Crappie, Spotted Bass, Smallmouth Bass & Largemouth Bass. Read below to see what you can expect to catch on our guided trips.
https://fishingbrokenbowlake.com/fish-we-catch/
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Jan 20, 2020 12:04:44 #
Jan 20, 2020 12:32:03 #
I've fished for Smallmouth fo over 40 years, it started one night fishing a spinnerbait on a lake in northern Alabama. I cast it to the bank started a slow retrieve and wham, the fish fought harder, jumping and runs than any freshwater fish I'd ever caught. That was the beginning of a love affair that's lasted the rest of my life.
Looks like you got the low down from others on stream fishing, I've done a lot of that but my biggest fish normally come lakes. I mentioned a Spinner Bait, smaller spinnerbaits work good day or night. Downsize most of the baits you fish for largemouth and they will catch Smallies.
My favorite and most productive lure over the years has without a doubt a 1/8 to 1/4 oz. black bear hair jig with a crawfish imitating trailer. Cast it to a likely spot and let it sink till it hits the bottom. Start a very slow retrieve bumping a rock or bottom every now and then and hang on. If this presentation don't work speed up your retrieve and swim the jig back to the boat. A jig is one of the more versatile baits in your tackle box and will catch almost anything that swims.
WARNING: Smallmouth Fishing Can Be Habit Forming
Looks like you got the low down from others on stream fishing, I've done a lot of that but my biggest fish normally come lakes. I mentioned a Spinner Bait, smaller spinnerbaits work good day or night. Downsize most of the baits you fish for largemouth and they will catch Smallies.
My favorite and most productive lure over the years has without a doubt a 1/8 to 1/4 oz. black bear hair jig with a crawfish imitating trailer. Cast it to a likely spot and let it sink till it hits the bottom. Start a very slow retrieve bumping a rock or bottom every now and then and hang on. If this presentation don't work speed up your retrieve and swim the jig back to the boat. A jig is one of the more versatile baits in your tackle box and will catch almost anything that swims.
WARNING: Smallmouth Fishing Can Be Habit Forming
Jan 20, 2020 12:41:54 #
Old75
Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
Thank you so much. Not only have you shared me your love for smallmouth bass fishing, but you have related your ‘goto bait’. I look forward to warming weather with waters still cool so I can give the suggestions a try.
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