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Mar 18, 2023 16:12:11   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd show me how to catch some really big Bass out of Rayburn when the big females were on beds. It came with conditions that he expected me to honor. He said they were more vulnerable during this period than any other because they were locked on beds spawning. His attitude and most of the other guys that do this is that they need to be carefully handled, and released so they can spawn. He said it basically wasn't fair to hammer them at this time, but no harm if you let them go to keep breeding. He had some disparaging things to say about guys that hammered these breeders and killed them.

Many other types of fish are protected during spawning and where they congregate to spawn because of the damage that can be done to their numbers at that time.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:40:26   #
OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin
 
Can they be caught(?)…sure.
Should they be caught(?)…not in my opinion.
As long as they are carefully cared for and released properly, they may be fine.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:50:35   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
woodguru wrote:
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd show me how to catch some really big Bass out of Rayburn when the big females were on beds. It came with conditions that he expected me to honor. He said they were more vulnerable during this period than any other because they were locked on beds spawning. His attitude and most of the other guys that do this is that they need to be carefully handled, and released so they can spawn. He said it basically wasn't fair to hammer them at this time, but no harm if you let them go to keep breeding. He had some disparaging things to say about guys that hammered these breeders and killed them.

Many other types of fish are protected during spawning and where they congregate to spawn because of the damage that can be done to their numbers at that time.
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd sho... (show quote)


Not my cup of tea.

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Mar 18, 2023 18:14:15   #
DCGravity Loc: Fairfax, VA (by way of Cleveland OH)
 
I go cold turkey when they're bedding, but refrain from passing judgement on guys that do (like my teenage son and his buddies who harbor no such qualms). So I target other species. There's a YT video that showed as soon as mama leaves the nest, the bluegill immediately swoop in and inhale the eggs.

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Mar 18, 2023 20:59:38   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
I don't think it is good to fish them when they are on their beds I know guys do it all the time but don't think it is the right thing to do

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Mar 19, 2023 08:34:01   #
The Outcast Loc: NE Michigan
 
woodguru wrote:
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd show me how to catch some really big Bass out of Rayburn when the big females were on beds. It came with conditions that he expected me to honor. He said they were more vulnerable during this period than any other because they were locked on beds spawning. His attitude and most of the other guys that do this is that they need to be carefully handled, and released so they can spawn. He said it basically wasn't fair to hammer them at this time, but no harm if you let them go to keep breeding. He had some disparaging things to say about guys that hammered these breeders and killed them.

Many other types of fish are protected during spawning and where they congregate to spawn because of the damage that can be done to their numbers at that time.
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd sho... (show quote)



Bass do seem vulnerable when on beds, and I understand some folks reluctance to fish for them at that time… but in reality does it harm them. I am no fish biologist, but here in Michigan historically the catch and keep bass season opened on the Saturday before Memorial Day. Still does on most waters.
But now Michigan has a catch and release season on just about all waters. So someone with more knowledge that I must think it is ok to catch and immediately release bass when they are spawning.. definitely a personal decision to fish for them at spawning time.., just sayin’

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Mar 19, 2023 12:51:44   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
DC wrote:
I don't think it is good to fish them when they are on their beds I know guys do it all the time but don't think it is the right thing to do


That's how I ended up feeling, who knows if they go back or if you hurt them and throw them off. Leaving females to spawn is part of healthy fisheries.

So I'm curious whether Bass tournaments are typically scheduled at that time or if they take a pause?

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Mar 19, 2023 14:29:00   #
DCGravity Loc: Fairfax, VA (by way of Cleveland OH)
 
The Outcast wrote:
Bass do seem vulnerable when on beds, and I understand some folks reluctance to fish for them at that time… but in reality does it harm them. I am no fish biologist, but here in Michigan historically the catch and keep bass season opened on the Saturday before Memorial Day. Still does on most waters.
But now Michigan has a catch and release season on just about all waters. So someone with more knowledge that I must think it is ok to catch and immediately release bass when they are spawning.. definitely a personal decision to fish for them at spawning time.., just sayin’
Bass do seem vulnerable when on beds, and I unders... (show quote)


Here is the video to which I referred in my earlier post: "What Happens When You Fish for Spawning Bass? Underwater Bed Fishing Tutorial" https://youtu.be/U26eteI1iBI This youtuber filmed a bed to see what happens after a ma or pa bass is caught and what ensues in the bed during their absence.

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Mar 19, 2023 19:31:56   #
HHenry Loc: Pt Loma CA
 
Perhaps an analogy from the roots...of the Teddy Bear....President Roosevelt, a Sportsman & Hunter, was with a group hunting down in the Deep South, and came across an old crusty Black Bear tied up to a tree...The Guides offered TR the honor of the Kill...To which he expounded, as he did so well, that it would be disrespectful, unsportsmanlike, and an affront to Moral Sense, and requested the Bear be spared and released...A journalist made a cartoon of the event that was widely published, a toy maker then made the "Teddy Bear", TR, without compensation, granted use of his name and the "Teddybear" became...
In today's environment, when Hunting & Fishing is for sport, not sustenance, when it is increasingly difficult for nature to achieve balance and sustainability, it does not make sense to target Pregnant or brooding animals, whether tied to their Redd's or chained to a tree...The challenge of the Hunt is the Primal fun in it:)
Bueno-
H

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Mar 19, 2023 22:13:29   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
The tournament schedule is very heavy in the Spring (during the spawn). I don't have a problem with the format where they release the fish where it is caught. Don't know about this YT video talked about on this post but I've seen many videos, read many studies, and most important, my personal experience is the caught fish returns to its nest almost immediately. On the oth
er hand, having a 100 or more of the best anglers in the world catching fish on beds for four straight days, carrying them in their livewells, and weighing them on a stage... well, my common sense tells me it's certainly not going to improve the spawn for that year. But some lakes, like our Clear Lake get hammered in the Spring year after year and still sustains an excellent population of bass. This suggests that the harmful effects aren't as bad as we think. The same thing happens in the Delta with the tournaments. But fishing there last year I often felt like they were to many bass.

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Mar 20, 2023 02:31:54   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
I forgot to add that the females are actually only on the bed for a very short time. Once they pick a mate and his bed, she gets her eggs fertilized and then hangs out for a day or two tops. She may observe her bed longer but it will be from a distance. The poor male does all the work especially protecting the fry from Bluegill.

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Mar 20, 2023 16:25:24   #
Captain
 
It’s a personal choice. Always easy to pick the low hanging fruit. Many saltwater seasons are closed durning at breeding times. Everyone complains about it. Everyone also complains that fishing is not as good as it was 20 years ago. Same is said about many species in many lakes in many states.

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Mar 20, 2023 18:00:39   #
Fishinfoolyes Loc: Menlo Park
 
Salmon and trout also fit into this category. Trout in many rivers and streams are spawning now. I believe that we willl be fishing and releasing for most varieties in the not too distant future. We are being fished out. E.g., salmon in California are now off limits for the rest of the year. Hurts everyone, but not as much as none at all for ever.

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Mar 20, 2023 19:26:30   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
My comments were strictly applicable to LM bass. I'm very fortunate to have 40 years experience fishing for them in the same area. Over this period of time I have not seen any significant difference in the population. Other species or even bodies of water probably require completely different management and sportsmanship practices. If my comments implied anything other than this, I apologize for my error.

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Mar 20, 2023 20:58:09   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
woodguru wrote:
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd show me how to catch some really big Bass out of Rayburn when the big females were on beds. It came with conditions that he expected me to honor. He said they were more vulnerable during this period than any other because they were locked on beds spawning. His attitude and most of the other guys that do this is that they need to be carefully handled, and released so they can spawn. He said it basically wasn't fair to hammer them at this time, but no harm if you let them go to keep breeding. He had some disparaging things to say about guys that hammered these breeders and killed them.

Many other types of fish are protected during spawning and where they congregate to spawn because of the damage that can be done to their numbers at that time.
When I was in Shreveport a friend told me he'd sho... (show quote)


I say boo,,, good true fishermen know that once they are pulled off their bed , it takes hours for her to reaclimate, by then many eggs are eaten,,boo

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