we hear a lot of people's thoughts and conclusions with out the raw data they base them on so I went to the CDC web site and got their latest stats to try to make some since of what is going on here is what I found
Monitoring Incidence of C****-** Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths, by V******tion Status — 13 U.S. Jurisdictions, April 4–July 17, 2021 | MMWR (cdc.gov)
averaged weekly, age-standardized rates (events per 100,000 persons) were higher among persons not fully v******ted than among fully v******ted persons for reported cases (112.3 versus 10.1), hospitalizations (9.1 versus 0.7), and deaths (1.6 versus 0.1) during April 4–June 19, as well as during June 20–July 17 (89.1 versus 19.4; 7.0 versus 0.7; 1.1 versus 0.1, respectively). Higher hospitalization and death rates were observed in older age groups, regardless of v******tion status, resulting in a larger impact of age-standardization on overall incidence for these outcomes.
https://cdc.gov/c****av***s/2019-ncov/v*****es/safety/adverse-events.htmlReports of death after C****-** v******tion are rare. More than 375 million doses of C****-** v*****es were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 7, 2021. During this time, V***S received 7,439 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a C****-** v*****e. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after C****-** v******tion to V***S, even if it’s unclear whether the v*****e was the cause. Reports of a*****e e***ts to V***S following v******tion, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a v*****e caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to C****-** v*****es. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen C****-** V*****e and TTS, a rare and serious a*****e e***t—blood clots with low platelets—
So using the time period of June20 - July 17 which is the most recent here is the statistics
Number infected per 100,000 was 108.5 or .001%
Unv******ted 89.1 82% of infected or .00089% per 100,000
V******ted 19.4 18% or infected or .00019% per 100,000
Hospitalizations per 100,000 was 7.7 or .00007%
Unv******ted 7 82% of infected or .00007% per 100,000
V******ted .7 18% or infected or .000007% per 100,000
Deaths per 100,000 was 1.2 or .000012%
Unv******ted 1.1 92% of infected or .000011% per 100,000
V******ted .1 8% of infected or .000001% per 100,000
Reported deaths after v******tions 7439 out of 375 million doses or .000019% which equates to 1.98 per 100,000. (yes it can be debated if these deaths are in fact directly caused by the v*****e but they have been reported as such so these are the numbers I will go by)
Here are the conclusions I gain from all this if all my math has been correct based on information from the CDC is correct the risk of being infected by c***d is 5X greater for the v******ted than the unv******ted, and 10X greater to be hospitalized and dying from c***d than the v******ted but here is the surprising thing the risk of dying from c***d among the unv******ted is almost the same as dying after getting the v*****e. So while I am v******ted and am in no way an antiv******tion person based on the raw numbers if death is your main concern it has to be admitted that there is a valid reason for some to choose not to be v******ted, which is why v*****e mandates is so misguided. What is also striking the often heard comparison to smallpox is just scare tactics since smallpox had a death rate of around 35% which is much much higher than the overall death rate from c***d which currently is something like 1.6% which is .0016 per 100,000 people