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Jan 14, 2021 23:29:18   #
PCvelic5 Loc: North Carolina
 
I just bought 4 new rods and three new trolling rods along with 7 new bait casting reels, three of which are line counters. I am torn between using braided line with a 30ft mono leader or just go with straight mono or flouro for the three trolling rods. I have been researching and reading about it and I have my own preferences but they all make good points. I'll be fishing out of Cape Lookout NC and the surrounding areas. I'll also be wreck fishing with live bait and I think in those situations I will go with mono BUT braided with a leader is a fave of mine...you get the strength of braid with the forgiving cushion of the mono. Thoughts or recommendation on which lines you recommend?

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Jan 14, 2021 23:36:27   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
PCvelic5 wrote:
I just bought 4 new rods and three new trolling rods along with 7 new bait casting reels, three of which are line counters. I am torn between using braided line with a 30ft mono leader or just go with straight mono or flouro for the three trolling rods. I have been researching and reading about it and I have my own preferences but they all make good points. I'll be fishing out of Cape Lookout NC and the surrounding areas. I'll also be wreck fishing with live bait and I think in those situations I will go with mono BUT braided with a leader is a fave of mine...you get the strength of braid with the forgiving cushion of the mono. Thoughts or recommendation on which lines you recommend?
I just bought 4 new rods and three new trolling ro... (show quote)


The fishin/trollin we do in the Napa and Petaluma Rivers we tie 30# braid straight to the lure. However, the water is muddy/stained AND stripers don't seem to be line shy either.
When I'm fishin bass or trout out of the lakes I tie either mono or floro on to the braid, like for drop shot or trollin.

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Jan 14, 2021 23:57:08   #
PCvelic5 Loc: North Carolina
 
saw1 wrote:
The fishin/trollin we do in the Napa and Petaluma Rivers we tie 30# braid straight to the lure. However, the water is muddy/stained AND stripers don't seem to be line shy either.
When I'm fishin bass or trout out of the lakes I tie either mono or floro on to the braid, like for drop shot or trollin.


I am with you on the braid with the mono leader. I will be trolling so I typically use a 50lb braid with a 30ft 50lb mono leader to attach the lure. But even when fishing around wrecks or bottom fishing, I use the braid with mono leader...I guess this seems more like the winning combination.

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Jan 15, 2021 00:25:42   #
audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD
 
OK for Salt Water fishing I am a bit confused. If there is a school of fish then they don't care about what line you use. They are fighting all the others for the bait/lure/shiny hook. I hit a school of Spot way back in the '70's and was just casting bear hooks on the end of the line with a sinker. I was bringing in 2 at a time. Sometimes one would fall off before I could get them to the top of the pier. 20 mins and they were gone, but I had filled 2/3rds of my cooler with fish.
Now fresh water fish are more picky, IMO. My standard wish for other fishermen is that they run into a school of fish once in their life. You will never forget it. I didn't.

I also learned that if you can see the trout in the water, you can get them to hit a small spool every time IF you cast past them and drag it to about 4 inches from them and then jerk it into the air over them 4 times, then the 5th time pull it past them. They will it it ever time, even when not hungry. You made them mad.
Fresh water fish bite because they are hungry or mad. So if they are NOT biting, then make them mad.
Drag the lure past them 3-4 times as fast as you can reel with the rod tip down towards the water, and jerk the lure still keeping it in the water at the same time. If they are there they will almost always hit it. But that's just my experience talking. If a fish wants your lure, the only way you can keep them from getting it, is to have it 6-8 feet in the air. Again just my XP. When I go fishing now it is more to relax than catch the fish. I do like catching the fish, but if I am just feeding them, that's OK also. If I fish with lures then I work the area and see if anything is there. No? Then I move to a new spot and do it all again.
Again Salt and Fresh Water fishing is different, but if they are hungry, they don't care. If not make them mad.

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Jan 15, 2021 06:39:14   #
PCvelic5 Loc: North Carolina
 
audigger53 wrote:
OK for Salt Water fishing I am a bit confused. If there is a school of fish then they don't care about what line you use. They are fighting all the others for the bait/lure/shiny hook. I hit a school of Spot way back in the '70's and was just casting bear hooks on the end of the line with a sinker. I was bringing in 2 at a time. Sometimes one would fall off before I could get them to the top of the pier. 20 mins and they were gone, but I had filled 2/3rds of my cooler with fish.
Now fresh water fish are more picky, IMO. My standard wish for other fishermen is that they run into a school of fish once in their life. You will never forget it. I didn't.

I also learned that if you can see the trout in the water, you can get them to hit a small spool every time IF you cast past them and drag it to about 4 inches from them and then jerk it into the air over them 4 times, then the 5th time pull it past them. They will it it ever time, even when not hungry. You made them mad.
Fresh water fish bite because they are hungry or mad. So if they are NOT biting, then make them mad.
Drag the lure past them 3-4 times as fast as you can reel with the rod tip down towards the water, and jerk the lure still keeping it in the water at the same time. If they are there they will almost always hit it. But that's just my experience talking. If a fish wants your lure, the only way you can keep them from getting it, is to have it 6-8 feet in the air. Again just my XP. When I go fishing now it is more to relax than catch the fish. I do like catching the fish, but if I am just feeding them, that's OK also. If I fish with lures then I work the area and see if anything is there. No? Then I move to a new spot and do it all again.
Again Salt and Fresh Water fishing is different, but if they are hungry, they don't care. If not make them mad.
OK for Salt Water fishing I am a bit confused. If... (show quote)


I hope I run into a school and have the same experience you had. Its not so much that I am worried about "IF" they will hit my lures when trolling as I was wondering the preferred line to use. I've not had much experience with trolling and was wondering about going with straight braid or mono or a combination of both? There's so many opinions on this by the "pro's" but I prefer to hear it from the guys and gals that fish like I do in the real world.

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Jan 15, 2021 06:50:37   #
Lee626 Loc: Brick NJ [ near the Jersey shore ]
 
I always use braid with a 6' flouro. leader unless your fishing for fish with teeth then i would add a 9" steele leader to the flouro. or even directly to the braid on occasions

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Jan 15, 2021 07:19:27   #
Flytier Loc: Wilmington Delaware
 
For my bait surf rods, I always run around 30 feet of 40# leader on 65# braid running line. That gives me the advantage in visibility if they are line sensitive. It also gives me something I can grab without getting cut when landing large fish, like 30 plus pounds. Throwing artificial I will go to about 6 feet of mono on braid. Fresh water I will usually run 4 feet of Mona on braid running line.

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Jan 15, 2021 13:14:52   #
Ben Bragg Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
I changed to braid years ago and didn’t look back.
Use a good quality braid. You have already spent a ton on your gear , don’t try to save a couple bucks on the line
I prefer using flouro leader but there are some who don’t.
Personal preference.

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Jan 16, 2021 11:43:13   #
PCvelic5 Loc: North Carolina
 
Lee626 wrote:
I always use braid with a 6' flouro. leader unless your fishing for fish with teeth then i would add a 9" steele leader to the flouro. or even directly to the braid on occasions


I was wondering about how long of a leader line you need when trolling....so 6 feet is fine....I have heard some use as much as 30ft but I think that is way too long.

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Jan 16, 2021 11:48:15   #
PCvelic5 Loc: North Carolina
 
When wreck fishing I usually bridle my bait and I will use about 20-30 foot leader to allow the bait to swim more freely. Do the same thing when fishing a weed line, just don't use any sinkers and let the bait do the job. The tolling is going to be new to me and want to make sure I am at least setting up my rigs right.

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Jan 16, 2021 11:58:57   #
Lee626 Loc: Brick NJ [ near the Jersey shore ]
 
PCvelic5 wrote:
I was wondering about how long of a leader line you need when trolling....so 6 feet is fine....I have heard some use as much as 30ft but I think that is way too long.


I really just got into using braid last year so i never trolled with it so i cant tell you exactly how long of a leader to use for trolling, i would use 6' or tie directly to the braid but someone else opinion may be a little more helpful than mine on that subject.

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