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Jan 4, 2021 16:05:44   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
What is your take on the supposedly curtailment of the supply of ammunition? If you believe that the incoming party, or any future party, intends to follow through with elimination of the Second Amendment rights of citizens, or short of that, make it next to impossible to attain or purchase ammunition for individual’s weapons, what does one do?

Well, first you can horde the calibers for your weapons. That is the short answer. While there are some major retailers who have discontinued carrying ammo, there are still others that do. Now there is the obvious restrictions of some more socialist-leaning states that are the cause of this shortage and if you live there, you will have to resort to different and more difficult measures to acquire an adequate supply. More later is this article for what you can do to remind this situation.

Perhaps, just perhaps it is time for some of you to form patriotic committees or cells, secretly by invitation only, and begin to stockpile selected calibers just in case, if you know what I mean.

There are in many states gun shops and retailers who still carry a full inventory of ammunition, at least in some states, but not in all states. For the more socialist states, an ammo run to purchase and stock an inventory of desired calibers may be necessary. I remember that for a long time, there was such a flow of firearms form the Rio Grande Valley into Mexico. I never knew the exact size or number of weapons that crossed the border, but it was substantial.

Next, for stock of ammunition, there are a couple of avenues citizens can take and those have to do with handloading equipment and the necessary components. This really amounts to two different choices. The first are full-blown sets of loading equipment, the proper set of caliber dies, the press, powder dispenser, scales, and of course the primers, bullets, and powder.

I suggest narrowing the caliber size down to one or two standard sizes of both rifles and pistols to make the inventory simpler, like .308, .30-06, .45, .38 and 9 mm.

As an alternative, there are pliers, or nutc*****r, reloaders. These are slow and less efficient but will do the job. But these are less expensive and easier to hide. Perhaps if a club wanted to go this route, then having several different units, perhaps a half dozen might be an answer because it allows greater distribution of the work load. If ammunition is banned, the confiscation is the next step and likely to follow.

Next, and critically, there is the need for powder and primers. This again should be standardized to as few as possible. Properly stored and maintained, these will last for long periods of time. If within half the lifetime of storage, no emergency has arisen, the I suggest using it for target practice and restocking with fresh supplies. No one ever knows in advance when a serious need will arise. Save your brass!

Finally, several people who are capable need to be trained to handle the reloading of this ammo. It is not a frivolous job, but one where the operator must pay careful attention to his work and not ever be distracted even for a moment. Human lives are at stake if the loader isn’t extremely careful and never distracted in his work.

Again, the powers that be will cut off these supplies once they realize reloading is a backdoor to providing ammunition. Being prepared means having the supply in hand and stored away in advance of any shutdown and cutoff! I pray to God this never comes to the point of fulfillment or necessity, but no one ever knows. More insane things have happened before and could happen again.

My master’s in business degree was primarily in strategic planning or trying to look ahead and be prepared for the unexpected. This is all certainly in that realm of the unanticipated but is not outside the realm of possibility. BE PREPARED! Just Saying…RJS

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Jan 4, 2021 16:22:33   #
Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)
 
Thank you, Mr. Samples. I did have an electric melting pot and dies and a good hand-loading press; while in Highschool...
I guess my father decided that somebody else, deserved it more than I did; as it "grew legs" while I was shrimping in the early 1980's.
I used to reload a lot of "target rounds" for the local COPS, free of charge, as long as they provided powder and primer and lead money (and their own MT brass). All .38-Spcl.
That not only kept me out of trouble while down in the basement reloading; I'm pretty sure that a lot of those guys "cut me a little extra slack", when it came down to whether or not, they would issue me a citation, for "wearing out my tires rapidly"; while on Main St., and so on.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:25:26   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
What is your take on the supposedly curtailment of the supply of ammunition? If you believe that the incoming party, or any future party, intends to follow through with elimination of the Second Amendment rights of citizens, or short of that, make it next to impossible to attain or purchase ammunition for individual’s weapons, what does one do?

Well, first you can horde the calibers for your weapons. That is the short answer. While there are some major retailers who have discontinued carrying ammo, there are still others that do. Now there is the obvious restrictions of some more socialist-leaning states that are the cause of this shortage and if you live there, you will have to resort to different and more difficult measures to acquire an adequate supply. More later is this article for what you can do to remind this situation.

Perhaps, just perhaps it is time for some of you to form patriotic committees or cells, secretly by invitation only, and begin to stockpile selected calibers just in case, if you know what I mean.

There are in many states gun shops and retailers who still carry a full inventory of ammunition, at least in some states, but not in all states. For the more socialist states, an ammo run to purchase and stock an inventory of desired calibers may be necessary. I remember that for a long time, there was such a flow of firearms form the Rio Grande Valley into Mexico. I never knew the exact size or number of weapons that crossed the border, but it was substantial.

Next, for stock of ammunition, there are a couple of avenues citizens can take and those have to do with handloading equipment and the necessary components. This really amounts to two different choices. The first are full-blown sets of loading equipment, the proper set of caliber dies, the press, powder dispenser, scales, and of course the primers, bullets, and powder.

I suggest narrowing the caliber size down to one or two standard sizes of both rifles and pistols to make the inventory simpler, like .308, .30-06, .45, .38 and 9 mm.

As an alternative, there are pliers, or nutc*****r, reloaders. These are slow and less efficient but will do the job. But these are less expensive and easier to hide. Perhaps if a club wanted to go this route, then having several different units, perhaps a half dozen might be an answer because it allows greater distribution of the work load. If ammunition is banned, the confiscation is the next step and likely to follow.

Next, and critically, there is the need for powder and primers. This again should be standardized to as few as possible. Properly stored and maintained, these will last for long periods of time. If within half the lifetime of storage, no emergency has arisen, the I suggest using it for target practice and restocking with fresh supplies. No one ever knows in advance when a serious need will arise. Save your brass!

Finally, several people who are capable need to be trained to handle the reloading of this ammo. It is not a frivolous job, but one where the operator must pay careful attention to his work and not ever be distracted even for a moment. Human lives are at stake if the loader isn’t extremely careful and never distracted in his work.

Again, the powers that be will cut off these supplies once they realize reloading is a backdoor to providing ammunition. Being prepared means having the supply in hand and stored away in advance of any shutdown and cutoff! I pray to God this never comes to the point of fulfillment or necessity, but no one ever knows. More insane things have happened before and could happen again.

My master’s in business degree was primarily in strategic planning or trying to look ahead and be prepared for the unexpected. This is all certainly in that realm of the unanticipated but is not outside the realm of possibility. BE PREPARED! Just Saying…RJS
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Jan 4, 2021 16:28:00   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
RJS you must believe the scare tactic? I am curious what states your suggesting? Health Insurance still is paid to a private ( rip off ) company here in Oregon. Even Government pays private companies to cover the Government Employees so its run by a Private Company for profit. Wondering where private companies are not the medical providers in any US State. The only ones that are not insured by Private Companies are Military. But their spouses are insured by a PRIVATE COMPANY. So where is the states your talking about? There may be laws about felons not having guns but Health Care is still a Private RIP OFF business.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:30:03   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
If AMMO is being controlled by the GOVT there will be NO gun powder...molds or anything else for good. It is another scare tactic.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:30:09   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Oops! I forgot about moulding one's own bullets. I don't think this is a viable option since cast bullets in a rifle will not stand high velocity powerer loads. You can put a gas cap on them but still it's not good for anything but "plinking". So, for serious trajectory, you need full or almost full jacket bullets. Just Sayin...RJS

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Jan 4, 2021 16:34:40   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Jeremy: I am totally confused about your connection of health care and the government's curtailment of gun powder. Just Sayin...RJS

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Jan 4, 2021 16:38:38   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Kerry Hansen wrote:
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Jan 4, 2021 16:39:25   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Kerry: I am an old fart and have no idea what you meant when you
sent X2 as a message. Just Sayin...RJS

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Jan 4, 2021 16:43:33   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Your saying Socialist States with all the ammo control. I am asking where are they? Health Care is one of the things that is supposedly going to be so messed up when it all happens but I can't seem to figure out where it is.

I also say it is a scare tactic that I do NOT believe in. I have plenty of guns and am not one bit scared anyone will come take them EVER.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:46:39   #
Mudbugger Loc: North Central Indiana, just north of Kokomo.
 
Well, there are several flaws in the plan. The time to start preparing was a few to several years ago. If you don't have your supplies and equipment, already in hand, you are not going to have. Even the lowly, Lee bullet moulds are in short supply.

Primers are now made of unobtainium, especially anything in the "small" sizes. Powder can be had, but it's hit and miss on variety and availability.

Presses and dies are indecently hard to find and expensive when you do. Prices are often in multiples of the MSRP.

I've been stockpiling, for my own needs, every since the Sandy Hook shortage.

I h**e to be the bearer of bad news, but reloading is MY major hobby.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:49:11   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Mudbugger wrote:
Well, there are several flaws in the plan. The time to start preparing was a few to several years ago. If you don't have your supplies and equipment, already in hand, you are not going to have. Even the lowly, Lee bullet moulds are in short supply.

Primers are now made of unobtainium, especially anything in the "small" sizes. Powder can be had, but it's hit and miss on variety and availability.

Presses and dies are indecently hard to find and expensive when you do. Prices are often in multiples of the MSRP.

I've been stockpiling, for my own needs, every since the Sandy Hook shortage.

I h**e to be the bearer of bad news, but reloading is MY major hobby.
Well, there are several flaws in the plan. The tim... (show quote)


How have you been Mudbgger? I got the Bearcat puuring and it runs great. I got one more of them too. Thanks for all the advice on it. I really appreciated it.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:49:53   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Yes, California, Illinois, New York all have stringent gun laws and seem to, at least from what I read from comments of residents of those states, tightening their restrictions of gun laws. What about Oregon? I don't know anything about your state.

There has been a lot of campaign talk of one party about doing away with the Second Amendment. We even had a pseuedo Mexican running for a Senator's job here in Texas about consfiscation of firearms and he got slammed, but not by near enough v**es. I don't have the statistics, but every weekend more folks are shot dead in Chicago and they already have strict gun laws forbidding ownership of handguns. Just Sayin...RJS

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Jan 4, 2021 16:50:07   #
FinFisherman Loc: Born in Ohio - 40 yrs Florida- Clearwater,Fl
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
What is your take on the supposedly curtailment of the supply of ammunition? If you believe that the incoming party, or any future party, intends to follow through with elimination of the Second Amendment rights of citizens, or short of that, make it next to impossible to attain or purchase ammunition for individual’s weapons, what does one do?

Well, first you can horde the calibers for your weapons. That is the short answer. While there are some major retailers who have discontinued carrying ammo, there are still others that do. Now there is the obvious restrictions of some more socialist-leaning states that are the cause of this shortage and if you live there, you will have to resort to different and more difficult measures to acquire an adequate supply. More later is this article for what you can do to remind this situation.

Perhaps, just perhaps it is time for some of you to form patriotic committees or cells, secretly by invitation only, and begin to stockpile selected calibers just in case, if you know what I mean.

There are in many states gun shops and retailers who still carry a full inventory of ammunition, at least in some states, but not in all states. For the more socialist states, an ammo run to purchase and stock an inventory of desired calibers may be necessary. I remember that for a long time, there was such a flow of firearms form the Rio Grande Valley into Mexico. I never knew the exact size or number of weapons that crossed the border, but it was substantial.

Next, for stock of ammunition, there are a couple of avenues citizens can take and those have to do with handloading equipment and the necessary components. This really amounts to two different choices. The first are full-blown sets of loading equipment, the proper set of caliber dies, the press, powder dispenser, scales, and of course the primers, bullets, and powder.

I suggest narrowing the caliber size down to one or two standard sizes of both rifles and pistols to make the inventory simpler, like .308, .30-06, .45, .38 and 9 mm.

As an alternative, there are pliers, or nutc*****r, reloaders. These are slow and less efficient but will do the job. But these are less expensive and easier to hide. Perhaps if a club wanted to go this route, then having several different units, perhaps a half dozen might be an answer because it allows greater distribution of the work load. If ammunition is banned, the confiscation is the next step and likely to follow.

Next, and critically, there is the need for powder and primers. This again should be standardized to as few as possible. Properly stored and maintained, these will last for long periods of time. If within half the lifetime of storage, no emergency has arisen, the I suggest using it for target practice and restocking with fresh supplies. No one ever knows in advance when a serious need will arise. Save your brass!

Finally, several people who are capable need to be trained to handle the reloading of this ammo. It is not a frivolous job, but one where the operator must pay careful attention to his work and not ever be distracted even for a moment. Human lives are at stake if the loader isn’t extremely careful and never distracted in his work.

Again, the powers that be will cut off these supplies once they realize reloading is a backdoor to providing ammunition. Being prepared means having the supply in hand and stored away in advance of any shutdown and cutoff! I pray to God this never comes to the point of fulfillment or necessity, but no one ever knows. More insane things have happened before and could happen again.

My master’s in business degree was primarily in strategic planning or trying to look ahead and be prepared for the unexpected. This is all certainly in that realm of the unanticipated but is not outside the realm of possibility. BE PREPARED! Just Saying…RJS
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I firmly believe in prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Guns and ammo is not the only thing I've also gotten into cross bows & bolts to last a life time. I've worked on long term food as well. Some 25 year food bought, some I do myself. I also shop with expiration dates in mind in my pantry.Seeds that I cycle thru & power. Power partially because I live in Fl and we loss power in storms. I've got a generator that will keep the house powered for 2 weeks + solar for small stuff radio cell phone and my kindle full of books.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:55:48   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
RJS that is the whole bogus part. They do not forbid guns to law abiding people. They don't want a bunch of high capacity type guns used in war. But then again what in world does an average h****r need that type of weapon for? Cant hunt majority of animals with them anyway. I agree with mudbugger. If its all over here the powder will be non existent. I don't buy into the one sided idea that they will be at my door on Jan 21st either. I will never believe the scare tactic. Plenty family and friends do but I don't.

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